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  • Apple TV or Roku for my technology-shy father? My dad watches a lot of TV. As in, he's retired and sits on front of the TV for much of the day and most evenings. He's gotten really into his DVR in the past couple of years and understands how that system works well and is comfortable with it. This is slightly slightly surprising to me as he tends to be a bit technology shy these days. He was an early proponent of Apple and was always the advocate of technology in our house when I was young, but these days he just seems tired of learning anything new and complex. My brother and I finally got him to get a cellphone a little over a year ago, but he doesn't use it much and opted for a dumbphone, and he has a Macbook Pro but only ever uses it for e-mail - anything beyond that he finds too complex to deal with and rarely if ever uses the internet - though he's got a decent DSL connection that comes with his cable package. I've noticed over the past year or so when I go home for the holidays that he tends to watch more and more crappy movies and TV on his DVR because he can't find enough good content and ends up settling on terrible History Channel conspiracy theory shows. This Christmas I want to get him Netflix streaming for a year and a set-top box to watch it on. My brother got him a Blu-Ray player last year that has Netflix streaming enabled on it, but I believe he hasn't used it once and he never signed up for a Netflix account. I do, however, think he would love the content that's available on Netflix, and when I brought up last year that he should look into an Apple TV, he seemed open to the idea but never followed up since he doesn't pursue technology on his own. He loves documentaries, historical/informative shows, and indie film and is very open in his taste preferences so I think it would be a great gift. With all this said, I'm trying to decide between an Apple TV and a Roku for him. Apple TV seems like the obvious choice because of its ease-of-use (I've played around with one for 5 minutes and it seems significantly less complex than a DVR) and the fact that he likes and trusts Apple as a producer of quality products, but from reviews that I've read it seems like it doesn't play well with Netflix on anything other than stellar connections. I think if my dad had to put up with constant load times, he wouldn't bother. When it comes to a Roku box, I know significantly less about it, and I just have no experience with it. Is the user interface friendly enough for a man who doesn't want to bother with a smartphone interface? The idea is to keep it as simple as possible for him. I'd be setting up his taste preferences for him while I'm home so he doesn't have to touch any of that, and ideally he'd never have to go in and change settings, unplug things on the box, mess with his internet settings, etc. So which is the better option? Or is there another one out there that fits the bill better like Boxee? Or does it seem like perhaps it's just not the right gift for him and I should just pay to further his HBO/Stars/whatever subscription?

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    Is the [Roku] user interface friendly enough for a man who doesn't want to bother with a smartphone interface? Yes, definitely. The Roku is dead simple to set up and to use. The second remote is a slight hassle, but it's a very simple remote. I like Apple's—I have an iPhone and a MacBook Air—but I would definitely get the Roku over the Apple TV at this point in time. On the Roku, you can do Hulu Plus as well at Netflix. He can also view HBO Go content if he has an existing HBO cable subscription—you can watch tons of movies there as well as the entirety of most recent-ish HBO shows, all ad-free. The only reason to buy an Apple TV over the Roku is if he would be likely to buy a lot of movies/TV off of iTunes.

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"My brother got him a Blu-Ray player last year that has Netflix streaming enabled on it, but I believe he hasn't used it once and he never signed up for a Netflix account." Why not just set up and config Netflix for him on the Blu-Ray player he already has (and presumably knows how to operate)?

joelhunt

I run a company that does dev on pretty much all of these boxes (we built the first UFC Roku channel and Seattle's Sounders). We all use universal remotes (usually Logitech Harmony remotes) works fine with Roku.

bitdamaged

To revisit this thread Amazon updated their Roku app in the last couple of months and it is much, much better now.

dgeiser13

My parents, who are the farthest from tech - savvy (my mom types one letter at a time, with just one index finger, I always feel bad about how long it must take her to email me!) and they love their Rokus. I would set it up for your dad for sure. The remote is so easy to use, like, maybe 10 buttons on the whole thing. You should also load up his Netflix queue for him too. I love my Roku. A note on universal programmable remotes. I am mildly tech-savvy. Once I tried a universal remote deal, and it took forever for me to program it. The thing was fickle and finding the codes was not easy. It was also full of buttons I never once touched.--I imagine my parents would find this confusing. And then when I either unplugged the TV/power went out, or I got new remote batteries, I can't remember, but at a few points, it became un-programmed, and that sucked. So long story short, I would have him stick with the remote he already has for regular tv, and then just tell him what button on that remote he needs to do for Netflix. You could even label with tape, we do that for my mom. I don't think it would be a huge deal to have a Roku and regular remote.

manicure12

My older relative seems to like the Roku we got him last year. Bonus, the tech-leery teen doesn't get impatient with it, either.

dragonplayer

I have to chime in on how much we like our Roku. We mostly use it with Netflix, but if he likes old tv and movies, there are several free channels on the system that we watch as well (and news, and weather, etc). It is dead simple to operate and has the least complex remote I've ever used.

lawhound

Roku's Netflix looks pretty much the same as my blu ray player's version but the actual experience is WAY better on Roku. Things are smoother, more responsive, and don't freeze up or drop frames the way that the blu ray player does.

The Lamplighter

If you're not married to the idea of one of those two devices, WDTV works great: Netflix, and works with Harmony. I think it's super easy to understand but can be customized for more advanced users.

getawaysticks

if I could have him downgrade to just an HD Receiver and then purchase a TiVo for him. Caution: None of the modern HD Tivos will work with DirecTV.

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