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  • So I am considering getting my first street bike, and as crazy as it seems, I am strongly considering getting a BMW S1000RR. Before you say that I must be ready for the insane asylum for wanting to start out on a liter bike, let me give you some background information on me. I grew up racing karts and riding dirt bikes. I have also had a really significant amount of track time in real cars and have been through many racing schools. I learned from a young age that the place to test the limits is the track, not the street. I am only 19 years-old, but because of my level of responsibility and driving ability, my parents have allowed me to daily an Evo X with about 450hp. I have never even been pulled over. My dad also has also given me permission to drive his Ferrari F430 when ever I choose, and he actually feels more comfortable having me drive it than having him behind the wheel. Point is, I am not some crazy teen that thinks he is invincible. I have a level of maturity that is usually reserved for 40 somethings. Regardless of the kind of bike I get, I do not plan on ever riding on busy public roads. I will mainly be either on backstreets or potentially at a track. The reason I am considering the BMW is because of its traction control system. If you're not too familiar with the S1000RR, its rain mode for example is considered to be "stupid" proof. The bike will actually cut the power to the rear wheel if the front starts to come up. I know that my racing history and dirt bike riding will not make me a good rider right off of the bat, but I feel as if the BMW could actually be a viable option at this point. I understand the benefits to starting on a 250 and am not completely opposed to that route, but I would really like to get a bike that is more unique and excites me from a visual standpoint as well. Other bikes that I might consider are the Aprilia RSV4 (due to the traction control system) and the Triumph Daytona 675R. I really appreciate your feedback.

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    You have riding experience, but riding a dirt bike is NOT the same as riding on the street. While I would say to get a larger bike than the 250 Ninja, I still think your first street bike should not be a liter bike or any form of track ready race bike. The Ninja 650r might be a good compromise. I would suggest that you get a familiar bike. Get a super motard. They look, act and feel like a dirt bike, have some good street performance, but are light and what you are familiar with. With that, you can build the street riding skills you need to survive on the street without having to feel out a new bike that doesn't act like you are used to. The 1000r is in NO way a beginner's bike for the street. While it has a lot of 'safety' systems, those are not designed to protect a newbie rider and that bike will be really, really expensive if you drop it. Something most new riders do a time or two. And, yes, you are a new street rider.

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Oh boy, where to begin. Bmw s1000rr - quickest liter bike in the world Developed specifically for advanced riders on the track Almost 200hp in a 300lb frame You- no experience in street riding. It's the wrong bike. Plain and simple

Brad A.

You can buy the bike, but no one will underwrite an insurance policy. Since you ARE a beginner, why do you believe a 186 mph road racer would be A-OK for a BEGINNER LIKE YOU?? The Aprilia and the Triumph are not for the beginner. Driving a car means nothing.

Max Cruise

None of your experience helps you with a bike on the street with cars trying to drive over you and you learning at the same time. You said " I understand the benefits to starting on a 250". So whats the problem? You know that's where you should start so do it right.

Mark

You seem to think that some of your skills or experience are transferable to street riding. They're not. That makes you a novice rider, just like any other. You obviously crave attention. If you want positive attention, you can EARN it by learning to ride really WELL, not by being an incompetent on a flashy bike. You are what you are, not what you drive/ride/wear/own. Novices start out on less-than-thrilling motorcycles. That's life. Welcome to the proletariat.

James

And we have another candidate for a posthumous Darwin Award. First off, don't get me wrong. I am not anti Sport Bike. However, I strongly believe that the motorcycle should match the skill level of the rider. A Sport Bike like this is essentially a street legal racing bike. Getting this motorcycle for your first bike is like getting a Formula 1 race car for you first car. A very bad idea. Any decent Sport Bike can go from zero to deadly faster than you can say "Oh Sh**!". Take a walk through your local salvage yard. I bet you will see several newer Sport Bikes with less than 5000 miles with the forks driven up into the engine. These were once owned by young inexperienced riders like you that thought a sleek sexy Sport Bike was the only bike to ride. Think about the road rash and broken bones the riders of these bikes had to endure if they are even still alive. A recent report from the Highway Loss Data Institute (HLDI) found that teenagers riding super-sport motorcycles were more than four times as likely to get into a crash than an older rider. If you are insecure and feel that the motorcycle you ride defines who you are, do whatever you want because you won't listen to what I am about to say. However, if you are a secure person who doesn't give a crap what others think and your motorcycle does not define who you are, here is what I would do if I were you. Get an older used Standard or Cruiser style bike in about the 500cc range. A Standard or Cruiser type bike will be much more forgiving to a novice like you. A 500cc Standard or Cruiser won't be so fast that it will scare the crap out of you but will be fast enough that you won't get bored too quickly. Learn on this bike. Make your mistakes. You will make mistakes. Most new riders will lay their first bike down at least once. Ask yourself this. Which bike would you rather lay down? An older Cruiser or a nice shiny expensive new Sport Bike. Another thing about a nice shiny expensive new Sport Bike. These bikes have lots of easily broken but expensive to repair plastic parts. Laying a Sport Bike down, even at low speed, will get very expensive, very fast. After at least 1 year of riding this starter bike, you can sell it. If you take good care of it and don't beat the crap out of it, you won't lose much money on the sale. You can then put this money towards your next bike. Even a Sport Bike if this is what turns you on. One final word about when it gets time to move up to a Sport Bike. Sport Bikes are generally owned by young riders who think they are racers on racing bikes. They tend to beat the crap out of their motorcycles. So if you want to get a Sport Bike, get a new one. As for insurance, use some common sense. Insurance companies keep detailed statistics on all accident claims. They know from these detailed statistics that young inexperienced riders are high risk. They also know exactly which bikes are fast. Add together a young, inexperienced, male rider, on a fast bike, and insurance is going to be expensive. Ride Safe - Have Fun Always remember this. On a motorcycle stupid hurts.

Mad Jack

Starting on a s1000rr is not a good decision. Regardless of your skill in a car, or that your father lets you drive his ferrari whenever, or even your dirt bike experience, none of this amounts to anything on the road. I owned the predecessor to the s1000rr, which was the k1200s. It was a fantastic machine, when it worked, but every single electrical system failed on me at one point or another, including abs, main ecu, brake servo, and the electronic suspension adjustment system. It would not surprise me that the "stupid proof" traction control system failed on you. What is important for newer riders to understand is that you cannot buy your way into riding skill, it has to be earned, and the only way to earn it is with tens of thousands of miles of experience... period. You seem educated, responsible, and apparently with the financial means to choose any bike start out riding with, why not consider a bike like the Susuki SV650 or Ninja 650? Both of these bikes have more than enough power for street riding day to day, and make ideal first track experience bikes. They also have none of the electrical "helpers" that the BMW tout. It is important to learn to ride a bike bare bones, without any computer guided frills, so that you can adequately handle a situation when the "helpers" fail, and they will fail at some point. Without my experience with a zx6r my k1200s would have killed me more than once. Without my ninja 250 experience my zx6r would have killed me more than once. If you are serious about getting into motorcycle riding, and possibly doing track days, then take the MSF if you have not already, get a 650cc bike like the ones I mentioned above. (Not a 600cc race class bike or a 675cc daytona) Get a few thousand miles of experience on the real roads, both busy and open, in traffic and out. Then enroll in track school for motorcycles, as it will be radically different from a car oriented racing school. After you do a few schools and track days, then consult your instructor for their opinion on which bike to graduate to. This will most certainly reflect the level of responsibility you claim to have. Responsibility includes recognizing that skill must be earned. I am not trying to tell you what to do, but I have laid out a sound course of action that I recommend you follow for your own safety. Ultimately the choice is yours, and I wish you the best of luck in which ever path you choose to take.

Jonathan

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