The ideal of representative democracy?

A "Democracy" is just a country where you get to vote, for the candidate or party of choice. A representative?

  • ...democracy is just one type of Democracy. "Direct democracy" is just one type of Democracy. Do you think right wing loons will ever give this lie up?

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    It's not a lie. The constitution never officially guarantees democratic elections for anything other than the House of Representatives. The rest is only democratic by convention and by the 17th Amendment (which could be repealed). If we wanted to, we could have oligarchic state legislatures (satisfying the "republican form of government" requirement without being democratic) electing governors (so no popular vote), Senators (ditto), and slates of Electors for the Electoral College (ditto), who would vote for the President. And the Supreme Court would be appointed by an undemocratic President and approved by an undemocratic Senate, which would make it 100% undemocratic. Like I said, in theory, only one half of one branch of government has to be democratic. The rest is by convention. And, of course, if you want to go for their actual point (our country is a republic, not a democracy), if you go past semantics, it's more valid than you allow. The spirit of the Constitution is of a firmly limited democracy. It revels in its Republican frame far more than in its democratic trappings. Our country is far more a constitutional Republic which happens to be limitedly democratic than a limited democracy which happens to be a constitutional Republic. If you read the Federalist Papers, you'd find that the Founding Fathers drew upon Aristotle's theories of democratic, monarchical, and aristocratic government in designing our republican frame of government. It's just that the past couple of centuries have limited the influence of the monarchical and aristocratic aspects so we're functionally indistinguishable from a limited constitutional democracy. It's more ambiguous than you allow, both in theory and in practice.

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Eh what? You don't ever make any sense. Representatives are something you see in republics. Democracy you don't vote for politicians to represent you you vote on everything itself. Why it wont work? Mob rule. Why full republic wont work? Misrepresentation and other problems look at ancient rome. We are a democratic republic dipshit and none of us right wingers are disputing that. Reply: God you're a f*cking moron. If anything this is like semantics. Tomato (Tomaytoe) or Tomato (Tomahtoe). Who gives a f*ck. Thing is moron is Democracy is where you vote on the issues Republics are where you vote for people to represent you on the issues.

The Commie Basher

You don't have any choice. You only have the illusion of choice. Both parties are beholden to global controllers, i.e., the offshore global banking cartel, the council on foreign relations, etc. Thomas Jefferson saw this coming and now its here.

myselfsufficientplan.com

At long last man, have you no decency? Find a new topic to place your Rain Man like focus on... 10 minutes to Wapner, yep, right wing loon, yeah defiantly a right wing loon, yeah... I'm a good driver, but only in the driveway and only on Sunday's... Yep, right wing loons

Patches O'Houlihan

have you ever considered pulling your head out of your ***?

Chuck

Just so I understand, since I'm just a Po' Missourah Red-Neck Engineer.... In America we have a Representative Democracy, because we VOTE for our Representatives, BUT we don't VOTE Directly on Every Legislative Decision? Do I have it Correct? Let me know so I can DUMB it down for the Rest of My Trailer Trash Brethren...You are making it JUST TOO COMPLEX for them, and I speak their Language. Thanks for bringing up a Wonderful Point for the 9th Time This Evening. ***EDIT*** Sir, by your Additional Remarks, one would have to Feel that you are just trying to instigate. "By your definition.....?" What do you mean? You wrote that "Direct Democracy" is a Type of Democracy, and that Representative Democracy MUST be a Type of Democracy, then. I agreed that with YOU that we have a Representative Democracy, then you say I said there has NEVER ever been a Democracy in the History of the World? Are we reading the same words? I'm lost, can anyone help?

The Solution

No. In an actual democracy the citizens vote on every law that is proposed. The U.S.A. is a republic. We vote for "representatives" who are supposed to *represent* us (but seldom do so). The problem is not really the politicians, although they have gone to great lengths to enable and further their system of flappers and kickbacks, it is the system. We would be much better off if we could remove the politicians from their offices and eliminate the office, but humans are not ready to govern themselves so we are stuck with our elected royalty. We *do* need to change the names though. The ultra-rich politicians have no idea how their constituents live. The politicos think that $30,000/year is "rich" yet some of them are worth that much each DAY. Like the French royalty of the 18th century, the rich politicians desire only their own comfort. "What? The people have no bread to eat? then let them eat cake!" The politicians have come to believe that they are our masters rather than our servants. They are out of control. It's time to vote ALL of them out of office. We need to have a 'REMOVE INCUMBENT' option on the ballot.

Lovi

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