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Moving to Dublin, Ireland?

  • Hi! So the deal is that I want to move to Dublin, Ireland in two years. I am sixteen right now and attending high school, and my plan is to be doing my post secondary studies in Dublin. I have already discussed this with my parents and they are enthused at the prospect. After doing some research, in order to study there and get the non-international student university rate, I have to have lived in Ireland for three years. If I do decide to take three years off from my education and work/live in Ireland, my questions are: how much would it cost to live there for a single young person like myself (an apartment, food, utilities, etc) how much is minimum wage for 18 year olds (in Canada min wage is dependent on age), how much can a normal job for young people get me? how feasible is my living there and anything else i am overlooking. Thank you so much for your help! :)

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    I would not consider you to move there. First of all there are no jobs at the moment and I don't think there is recovery in Ireland. It is a very racist country. I am not black neither Asian and I have been targeted a lot of times, not to mention some colored friends of mine. It is boring, there is nothing to do unless you drink a lot. The cost of life is high. Minimum wage is good abt 8 euro per hour. There are other factors than the cost of life etc... if you are a visible minority you should not come. I lived there for 3 years. I am in London not and I love it. It is so diverse here, blacks, whites, yellows... I have a lot of friends (including English), my life is back again. I try to forget what I have lived in Dublin, how lonely I was, how unsupported I was feeling because I am not Irish and how many times I have been abused because I am not Irish... and so far not any single person I met in Ireland (some French, Greeks, Finnish and Chezs) do not have an Irish friend. I am sorry for disheartening you but this is my opinion based on what I have experienced in this small conservative country. Most of the people live in cavemen's age. You can hear opinions so much conservative especially towards foreigners that you cannot believe it!!! If you really want to live in Europe and you don't speak any other language except English then maybe try England or Scotland but I would encourage you to learn. You have time to do that. Learn Spanish, Italian, German or maybe French (easier I suppose if you live in Canada) because honestly there are much better places to live in Europe. The quality of life in Ireland is somewhere in the bottom. The following survey confirms that one in 3 Irish people are xenophobic. Also make a further youtube research to find out about racism in Ireland but be warned you may lose hope for humanity. edit: Regarding the question above: The BNP and other far right political parties have gained power because due to the recession the people blame others for the economical downturn. In Ireland the fact far right parties don't exist it doesnt mean the people are not conservative. They just hesitate to show their racist feelings in Europe cause they were immigrants and they want their country profile to remain good in order to attract tourists and get more money. Also the Irish HATE the Polish. Why you don;t make a research in the internet and them tell me where the most racism comes from? Did you forget the blueshirts pal? Who helped Franco in Spain? Did you forget the British fought the nazis while you a small church dictated country followed the Fascist call of Franco and Mussolini? Not to mention the opposition in the Irish parliament which is a typical right wing party, racist with xenophobic attitudes. And if you are so great let others say that not you. Oh... and I have been outside of London, and my cousin lives in France and another in Sweden. They haven't complained for racism yet!!! Standards of living: Awful transport system, broken streets Healthcare which does not exist (you pay 70euro to visit a doctor in a hospital) High crime Litter everywhere Bad and expensive housing The quality of food.... pathetic! Those are high standards? I dread to think the low

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If you're polish you should check the rules for eu citizens, not international students. you might find you are entitled to the same as irish people. you should consider though that ireland is on the point of bankruptcy, and two years from now there may no longer be free fees. (at the moment, free fees cost 1800 euro, goes up by about 500 a year.) you should give some other parts of ireland a thought, especially belfast as the cost of living is far lower, it's only an hour from dublin, and it's in the UK so you won't need to man the lifeboats:) the cost of living in dublin is huge, not far off double that of the rest of the country depending. pint of beer would cost about 6 euro, rent about 150 per week, etc. the minimum wage is about 8.70 euro for over 18, but you won't be getting a job so don't worry about that. i should point out, in case you wasted a minute of your life reading sauron's two cents, that ireland in fact has one of the highest standards of living in europe, not, in fact, the lowest. Also, RTE's groundbreaking survey notwithstanding, Ireland has never seen any far right political group gain support on an anti- immigration platform, unlike virtually every other country in europe, and certainly unlike britain (BNP) and france (monsieur le pen). perhaps if sauron ventured outside london, one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world, he might notice this. i wonder how he'd find glasgow? In every country in the world with no exceptions the less educated classes are to some degree racist and xenophobic, ireland is one of the only countries where this feeling hasn't been deep seated enough to penetrate the political sphere. that's a matter of fact, not opinion. I have to say coming to ireland is not advisable for the next few years, unless maybe you go to the north.

Joe B

edit: working in Belfast would be a whole different kettle of fish but to qualify for EU fees in a British university, she'd still have the same problem - she would have to be resident for 3 years before she qualifies otherwise she'll have to pay international fees http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucitizens/workerregistrationscheme/ Under current rules, an EU national living in the Republic of Ireland who fulfils the residency requirement (must be resident for at least 3 years before the start her course) could get free fees, however, they are currently debating changing the fees structure so the free fees may disappear You could consider other parts of Ireland, Cork, Limerick, Waterford - go to the library (or a major bookstore with a coffee outlet), borrow/buy a guidebook & read up on the towns/cities in Ireland. You may even find a guide to living & working in Ireland. http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/moving-country/moving-to-ireland original answer: There's only one flaw in your plan, unless you can acquire citizenship of an EU member state through one of your parents (or a grandparent in some cases) you will need a visa to live & work in the Republic of Ireland. It is extremely difficult to get a work visa for the Republic of Ireland at the moment & if you are an non-EU national requiring a visa you will find it next to impossible. Irish employers are obliged to consider Irish applicants, followed by citizens of EU member states, they can only consider applicants from outside the EU if they are unable to find a suitable candidate in the EU. Only the exceptionally talented (minimum educational qualification degree) are considered. The Republic of Ireland & the UK are both still in recession & employment levels are high in both countries. It will take a long time for Ireland to recover from this & the type of jobs a young girl with only a high school education & minimal work experience will be eligible for are easily filled. Dublin is also one of the most expensive cities in Europe to live in. edit2: Sauron, you're being a bit selective there aren't you or are you living in a parallel London none of the rest of us know about? Do you know who Oswald Mosley is? Enoch Powell? Can you name a country that didn't have a facist organisation during the 1930s? Plenty of British men fought on both sides during the Spanish civil war & there were British men at Hitler's side during WW2, Ireland may have been neutral but hundreds of thousands of Irish people worked in Britain during that period & Irish men fought in armies across the world The BNP has existed since the early 1980s, they have been gaining momentum for years. Do you really think because English people smile politely to your face that they're not racist? They just don't talk about it as publicly as they used to Why don't you ask some of your ethnic minority friends about the history of their families in the UK? Other people had to suffer first so you could have an easy time of now or do you imagine they've legislated away all of the inequalities that exist in British society? Outside of the cities in the UK, there are hardly any ethnic minorities to be found & they will tell you they find the same narrow, conservative attitudes in the British countryside that you think you found in Dublin As for your description of Dublin, that fits London to a tee except for the GP charges although they can't be far behind Nobody made you stay in Dublin, for whatever reasons you chose to remain. Just out of curiosity, how have you managed to avoid Irish people in London? In that last census there were apparently 6 million Irish born living in the UK, not to mention their descendants & a whole other class who are entitled to Irish passports through descent

froggequene

Once you are 18 the min wage is 8.65 (as of now). Dublin is expensive so it will be difficult as work is running out. However you will be able to work in bars and restaurants as you are old enough. If you have EU passport you should be able to get the European rate at Uni...(which is also expensive and certainly not free). Look at the websites for Trinity College, UCD and DCU and find out more.

Louise K

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