Infertility vs adoption,very long?
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I enjoy a healthy discussion and would like to hear different points of these views.These are thoughts that I have heard and are not necessarily my opinions I know where I stand.I just want to know your thoughts but no need to be rude.I will not give a thumbs down and I will not judge.As far as what is my questions,I just wan to know your responses to these arguments,I always seem to learn something new.Thanks and please try to be respectful. Many ask why infertile couples do not adopt.I wonder why the question is not why don't more couples adopt?What does being infertile have to do with it?Belive me I do know that their are many couples who can have a biological child and choose to adopt. Are these children all of our responsibility when the guardianship is no longer with the parents? Secondly,many do not mention why the children are in the foster care system or why the child is up for adoption.Sometimes,especially in other countries children are orphaned,I am aware and am heartbroken for these children.While I think putting a child up for adoption is very noble why do infertile couples have to be attacked?We would not have all these children without homes if it was only people who wanted children that have children.I know that won't be the case,I am just saying.Is it wrong for someone to want a biological child and is it the responsibility of an infertile couple only to help these children? Next,I know many people wonder why older children are not adopted as much as neborns and infants.I can say after working at an adoption agency that many do want the intimate bonding of an innocent baby but we had a rule that if you already had children you could not adopt out of birth order.For example,If you have a 1,4 and 7 year old it would not be a good idea to adopt a 13 year old because this changes the place of the 7 year old.What do you think about this? Then the argument of playing God.I know many women who have never gotten pregnant through IVF or own their own.Some it works the first time and some will try infertilty treatments and it does not work but then later on they get pregnant on their own.So it would appear that if God does not want you to have a biological child or at least not at that time than that is still what occurs? Also,IVF and adoption are both expensive.I understand foster care is cheap or even free,at least where I am from but every situation is different.Some people are not able to adopt for financial or other reasons.Some people who already have children have a hard time being chosen by a birth mother.Same with age,some very young couples and much older couples have a hard time being chosen.This process can last a few years and tons of money and sometimes the birthmothers change their mind.IVF is expensive but some doctors have shared risk programs and sometimes their are drug studies that lessen the costs.If it only takes once it is much cheaper than someone who tries it many times. Lastly,why do some people think that those who decide to go through infertility are bad people and are bad parents.These people really want children,they must they go through so much to have them.Some people with children love them and take great care of them and some infertile and fertile are violent and probably should not have children.I just want to get opinion if their is a double standard and what you think about these arguments.Please feel free to add anything.
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You have presented a number of issues in your commentary. The "birth order" argument is interesting. The one common thread, I notice in the adoption process is that the "government", for lack of a better term, in its effort to avoid any errors effectively paralyzes the domestic adoption system. The international process has its own built in obstacles. The one fact that you present that I have never consider is the "too old, too young" to adopt couples. I do not dispute your observation. I just did not know. Confining my remarks to the adoption process only, I think the administrators, in their focus on doing no harm do, in fact, cause more harm than a pure unregulated system would. That is harsh; but, no objective can be accomplished with an over-weighted decision process. In all wars, many innocents have been killed. Still the alternative would be for all of the innocents to be entrapped. Regarding IVF: again, no dispute with your comments; but, I think the human ego will always provide a major market of the service. Your comments have crystallized my views regarding the regulation of the foster care and adoption practices and regulations in the U.S. Abusive people will not tell the truth in the adoption process. And people who are pure of heart and intent will give the "wrong" answer in attempting to be truthful.
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I feel that breeding NEW children while there are still MILLIONS of homeless and abused children is the most selfish thing you can do. I 100% look at it the same as how you look at the overpopulation of dogs and cats... Why breed more when you can go to the pound and give one that is in desperate need of love and shelter a good home? BREEDING IS NOT A RIGHT! That is one thing that everyone needs to understand... If you can't care for a child, you should not have one! If you are addicted to drugs or alcohol... If you are mentally ill... If you are a product of child molestation or abuse... DO WHAT IS BEST AND NOT SPREAD YOUR ILLNESS TO YOUR CHILDREN. Please... Listen to Dr. Drew and just listen to a few episodes of Love Line. Almost every episode, he goes in to how abuse and molestation and mental illness is spread because the abused act out THEIR abuse on their children... Were you abused as a child? You will most likely end up damaging your child mentally OR expose your child to the same type of pedophile that screwed YOU up... You don't even REALIZE that you are a bad parent and causing the generational spread of mental illness and abuse but you ARE... I'm the product of a mentally ill, physically and emotionally abusive mother... I have inherited a hip condition that is common on my father's side... If I breed, my child will most likely end up being mentally ill with a chance of physical disability. ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ If you LOVE your child... You will do what is best for it... Even if that means NOT giving life to a child in the first place. ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ I AM NOT SO SELFISH THAT I WOULD DAMN MY CHILD TO MY GENETIC PROBLEMS. I will not breed because I know that the chance is too high of my offspring inheriting my disabilities... I THOUGHT ABOUT MY CHILD'S FUTURE BEFORE I MINDLESSLY GAVE IN TO MY BIOLOGICAL URGES. Eugenics may have gotten a bad rap after the 1940's but the basic ideas of it are true... Breed the best with the best to get the best... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics We put more thought and effort in to the breeding of dogs and sheep then we do in to the breeding of our own species... And that is sad. ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Check out a NOVA episode called "The Ghost In Your Genes". http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/genes/ Video Preview: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/preview/i_3413.html It is an hour long doc on how everything from what you eat, the chemicals you absorb, to even how you TREAT your offspring will alter it's development. That's right... If you emotionally abuse your child, you will alter its epigenome and very DNA and change not just how it is mentally hard-wired, but encourage how healthy or unhealthy it will be PHYSICALLY in it's adult life. A Tale of Two Mice A mouse gives birth to identical-twin sisters. One has brown fur and will grow up to be lean and healthy; the other has yellow fur and is destined to be obese and prone to disease. How can two mice sharing exactly the same DNA become so different? The answer lies in the epigenome, a kind of second genome that all animals have, including humans. The epigenome dictates which genes in the genome are turned on and which are not, a process that can differ even between identical twins. In this audio slide show, see how this process works in mice and what the implications are for our own health and that of our children and even grandchildren.—Rima Chaddha Gene Switches "Ghost in Your Genes" focuses on epigenetic "switches" that turn genes "on" or "off." But not all switches are epigenetic; some are genetic. That is, other genes within the chromosome turn genes on or off. In an animal's embryonic stage, these gene switches play a predominant role in laying out the animal's basic body plan and perform other early functions; the epigenome begins to take over during the later stages of embryogenesis. In this slide show, you'll see a striking example—in that lab standard Drosophila melanogaster, the fruit fly—of just how powerful these embryonic gene switches can be.—Nipam Patel
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some people can not adopt due to personal problems( a criminal record, mental disorder like bipolar, and other reasons that would keep them from being suitable for adoption according to the adoption agency)
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Wowee, that first answer is a humdinger! I don't think I have ever heard pregnancy referred to as "breeding" so much in my whole life! I'm actually VERY glad that person never had, or raised a child! Now, in answer to your question(s): I have a hard time with infertility treatments that result in multiple births. Unfortunately, we have a serious population issue on this planet, and i really do feel that humans are not ment to give birth to "litters
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