Using the system and stay-at-home-moms: Why shouldn't we use the system?

I have thought about doing it when I have kids, but i'll be a lesbian mom. The government doesn't want to recognize my parter as my partner or the child's other parent, her money won't count for anything. And if we both did work and pay taxes, we would get more back then married couples do. The whole system is stupid and screwed up and I think the American people should fight back even by means of using the system. But that's just me and i'll probably get thumbs down for being gay.

If this were the case, then everyone would quit their jobs and live off the government. It's would be a worse mess than it already is. Plus, the money you receive from the government is suppose to be temporary and for individuals with dire situations. The money people receive from welfare, food stamps and section 8 is very little. Personally, I would never want to live off the system, unless I was in a very dire emergency. The system isn't good enough for my kids. I don't want to raise my children in a section 8 apartment or buy groceries with food stamps. There is a certain level of pride and accomplishment when you provide for yourself. If you live off the government, when you don't really need to, you're not setting a very good example for your children. It's showing them to abuse the system, so they can get what they want. The government has never, ever been fair and it never will be. You want unfair! It's not fair to seek assistances, without trying on your own first. Set a better example for your child.

I consider it taking advantage of the system, a system that is supposed to be there for people who truly would starve and have no electric or medical if it wasn't for the government. Yes, I know people take advantage everyday, but why add to it? I love how positive all the comments you're getting are. Imagine if I asked the same q as a single mom...hmm bet I wouldn't get that kind of support.

Yes, it is wrong. I am a working mother. Could I use some extra money for groceries, utilities, etc.? Absolutly. But because my husband and I both choose to work, we make too much money for assistance. What you are considering doing is a classic case of abusing the system. Programs like food stamps are there for those who are truly in need-People who work full time and still cannot make ends meet. Not mothers who can't really afford to stay at home, but decide standing in line at the welfare office once a week is easier than getting a job. Your line of thinking is ridiculous. Please explain to me why someone like me has to pay all of these taxes, so someone like you, who does not work at the present time, can use my tax money because you've decided to be a SAHM? You say you paid taxes-How much did you get back on your tax return each year? If your husband makes so little that your family qualifies for welfare, chances are your tax bracket is low and everything you've paid in has been returned to you each spring. Here's an idea-The government offers daycare assistance. Why don't you sign up for that, then get a job, and do like the rest of us and go to the grocery store, open up your wallet, and pay for your families food? What kind of lesson are you teaching your child if they know they can grow up and not work because the government will pay their bills? I swear, welfare in this country is a culture. Generations of families grow up thinking education and a good paying job are pointless because they are some how ENTITILED to welfare. And your whole "taxes are bad" thing-How do you think roads get paved? Teachers get paid? The park your child will play at gets maintaind? And back in the "olden days," there were taxes. There have been taxes in this country since it was founded. EDIT: Go ahead and defend yourself. But welfare is supposed to be for people who NEED it. You don't.

Oh sure, go for it. I love only seeing 2/3 of my paycheck and letting you and the others have the rest.

don't feel bad, it is your money too. if you are married, and he is getting taxed, it is just going right back into your home.

I can barely make it on 100% of my salary...the "system" would only pay me 60% of what I make now... Plus the system is supposed to be for those who "can't" provide for themselves...not lazy saps that just want to suck up someone elses money...THAT is why the system is in the pooper. Taxes pay for the everyday privileges that most americans take for granted. Like schools, animal shelters, paved roads, police, governmental agencies that you could go to get help when you actually need it, street cleaning, public maintenance... There are a million things that no one takes into account...they just look around this beautiful place we live in and complain about taxes. Go spend two weeks in some third world mud hut in some asssbackwards village, where you aren't allowed to speak because you have a vagina and then complain about how crappy the american government is... I have worked full time since I was 15, so I have about 5 years on you...and I'm not going to lay back and leach off the system, unless there is no other alternative. Public assistance is already abused enough, what you are describing here is blatant abuse of the system. And just because there are 100billion dirt bags out there abusing the system already, joining them...doesn't make it right.

I do not agree with you, on a couple of points. One, if priorities are set, both parents are not forced to work outside of the home. On my Husband's income, the only one in the house for the last 10 years while I have been a SAHM, he has managed to support 5 people completely, maintain our hefty mortgage, pay an exorbitant amount of child support, take care of all of our bills, and still have a little left over for our needs and wants as well. Of course, we live paycheck to paycheck, and at times it isn't easy, but it is do-able. We don't do anything by credit, and I know how to shop and stretch a dollar. We also take on no financial obligations that we cannot afford. Before that, I was a single mom, who worked 4 a.m.-12 noon, at one point had 2 jobs, at one point had 2 jobs AND went to school, and the only government assistance I received is food stamps and Medi-Cal. The only reason I got those was because of my Daughter, and had it not been for her, I wouldn't have even have applied. I truly believe that as long is someone is able to do for themselves, they should. I understand your desire to be a SAHM. But I know for a fact that it IS possible to be one on one household income. LOL !!!!~ I saw that and was going to rant" I am not being hateful!!!!!" ; )

I didn't read the other posts so I may be repeating or I may be very much in the minority, who knows. I have to tell you that I disagree with your reasoning. I stay at home with my kids. I am on no form of welfare. My husband works his *** off to make this possible. There was a time years ago, where we made so little we could have qualified for welfare. Still we did not take it and still I stayed home with my child. You aren't just saying screw the government. All the rest of the taxpayers would be paying for your food stamps. I also feel that welfare should be used only when extremely necessary. I would never take advantage of a program like that b/c what if one day something happened and I really and truly needed it. Also, I'm not the kind of person who wants things handed to me. The world has many injustices and if you take food stamps and whatever else when you don't really NEED them, you're just adding to those injustices. You're not righting any wrongs at all. Just my opinion.