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Need help w/ my 6 yr old son, is violent, threatens to kill all of us, what do you suggest? ?

  • "how would you deal with a child who is out of control 6 year old who is very violent and states that he wants to kill his whole family and has hurt all of them quite a bit and who has already stood on top of one of the family members and checked to see if they were sleeping and closed the door and locked it behind him when he thought everyone was asleep? He has been diagnosed with Atypical Psychosis. No one believes me that he can be so violent at such a young age, but he has been suspended so many times out of kindergarten and 1st grade due to his violence; he has punched the teacher in the face and hurt quite a few of the students at school and he has hugged some girls in his class inappropriately when they did not want him too and he has hurt me quite a few times in the past. Most recently he tried to steal from 2 different stores and I took the items out of his pockets before the security came and kicked us out of the store or stopped us and had us detained or something. He also stole out of our wallets and when confronted he gets violent and starts to hurt anyone in his vicinity and throw things at everyone. He gets alot of strength when he is in his fit if rage. He is very strong, I know because he has been able to hurt me quite a few times and I am pretty strong myself. Then when we were standing in line to get some Christmas presents from a church he was pushing real hard against my 6 month old son's stomach and chest and when I told him to stop because he was hurting his brother he got mad and ran off. I tried to catch up with him, but he was much faster than me and I had my baby in a stroller and my one of my other kids with me as well. I was running back to the line where my other 2 kids were with one of the church people and my son was coming towards me. When I asked him why he got mad and ran off and that I was upset because the way he was acting because it was embarrassing and not appropriate, he got mad again and ran off and this time he didn't come back. I was a ways from my house and my vehicle and I didn't know anyone in the line and I started calling the police frantically and asked if anyone could help me look for my son while I waited for an officer to come to the address and asked the church person if they could continue helping me watch my other 2 kids so they would be safe and they agreed. Some kids actually found him right as the police car came driving up where my other 2 kids were at; I just went home presentless and happy that my son was okay. I had a panic attack and was crying frantically while I was searching for my son. Then about 4 days ago, he decided to get violent once again and he started picking up things and throwing them at everyone sitting in the living room all because I wouldn't let him have an ice cream. He had been misbehaving so badly prior to that incident; including finger painting feces on the wall, and I didn't believe that I should reward him for his violent and disruptive behavior. He started biting me and scratching me and hurting me and he said he was going to kill all of us when we went to sleep and I was afraid of his violent behavior and I called the police. The dispatcher was less than helpful; stating that I should be able to control my own son who is only 6 years old and that he could understand if he were 16, but he is only 6 years old! I was happy though that 2 very nice officers came over and they got a first hand of the violent behavior that my son exhibits. He was under the glass top kitchen table when they came inside my house and he was acting like a rabid dog who was foaming at the mouth and he started barking and snapping at the officers and spitting as well. One of the officers asked me to get him out and when I grabbed him, he ended up slicing open both my bottom and top lips and the way he was able to quickly and forcefully grab my lip, he gouged into my left lower gum in my mouth and it is still trying to heal. My mouth was pouring out blood and he was still acting like a crazy caged animal and throwing everything that he could find. He scratched me again and basically thought the police were funny not scary like they were supposed to be to him. He does not appear to be scared of anything. No one wants to help me. They keep stating that if he were 16 then they could take him to a psych ward in some facility to get him re-evaluated, but since he is only 6 it is my problem & that there really isn't anything that they can do to help me. He is seeing a bunch of Psychologists (at school and out of school) and a few Psychiatrists as well who have prescribed him "Abilify" which I feel like it is like giving a cancer patient a bag of m & m's to cure them. Thank you so much because I am scared for my familys' lives and need help... feel like I need to sleep with 1 eye open.

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    and a few Psychiatrists as well who have prescribed him "Abilify" which I feel like it is like giving a cancer patient a bag of m & m's to cure them. Thank you so much because I am scared for my familys' lives and need help... feel like I need to sleep with 1 eye open. Mrs. Janice Badge Image: Your Answer: I understand exactly what you are going through. My son whom is also six has the diagnoses of Bipolar II with rapid cycling, ADHD, Cognitive Disorder with Executive Functions Weakness, and Sensory Processing Disorder. My son rages like that and has almost every other issue that your son does except trying to kill us. My son has been on medications since he was four years old. That was one of the hardest decisions I ever had to make. It really sounds to me that your son needs you to find him a good child therapist, a child psychiatrist that specializes in children with mood disorders, and an inpatient psychiatric stay. I just read that he is seeing a psychologist which is excellent, but if you don't feel happy with them find another one. Medicating our children is not like giving a cancer patient a bag of M and Ms. Think of it this way: If your son had diabetes and needed insulin would you give it to him? If he had an asthma attack and needed a nebulizer treatment would you help him? I am sure you would. Our children are suffering inside. They are stuck in these bodies and brains that don't cooperate with how they feel in their heart. Medications can really help our children, but it is more of an art then a science to find the right combination. Each child is different. What works excellent for one child, might not work at all for another. Next time your son rages bring him to the ER and demand he get a psychiatric evaluation. There are inpatient programs for children as young as ours and younger. My son has not gone yet. We made three trips to the ER over the summer. The first time I could not let him go. The second and third times there were no beds for him. The beds are limited, but do exist. In your situation I would try going to the ER every day until somebody found him a bed. We have what is called FST: Family Stabilization Team, come into our house once a week to work with Elijah and our family. She helps me find him the services he might need, recomends things that she believes would help stabilize his moods better, she even came to the ER with us each of the times we needed to go. She has been wonderful. She did most of the talking for us to the psychiatric people at the hospital so we did not have to deal with them. You should make a call to your insurance company and inquire if they have FST services. Also about the school situation, does your son have an IEP? If not then I suggest you advocate to get him one. His disability is obviously affecting his education so he is entitled to one. Write a letter to the school district requesting an evaluation for one as soon as possible. They will do testing and might deny him the first time. If they do this then start fighting... request another one and study Wright's Law and the education laws in your state. I found http://www.bridges4kids.org very helpful. Make a binder that has all his papers regarding his diagnosis, letters from the school, doctor's notes, etc. He is entitled to an IEP and needs one. If he has one then he can not be suspended more than ten days for the whole school year. On the eleventh day they would have to hold a special meeting where they would determine, with your input, if your son's disability lead to his behavior issues, which with the diagnosis he has should not be hard to prove. After that they would have to make accomodations to have him educated in a setting that better fits his needs. Don't give up... we need to keep fighting for our children in a world that often does not seem to have understanding of our children's diagnoses. My son has gotten better with the trials of different medications and counseling. He has shown good results on Risperdal and Lithium... but the Risperdal has caused a major weight gain. I am going to take him to an inner city teaching hospital where they would be more likely to try the newer medications that have less side effects. Everyday I pray that people can understand what is going on in his brain and give him the help he needs. In my opinion this is a child that would benefit greatly from an inpatient stay so they can see what triggers him if anything... I have no idea what sets off my son. In the hospital they would also get him on a combination of medications that would stablize him atleast for the time being. With children this age what works for a while, often stops working because their chemistry is always changing. Please read my poem I wrote a couple months ago about Raising a bipolar child: Wonders of a mother I wonder what tomorrow brings For a little life all filled with fright I wonder what tomorrow brings For a little boy so afraid at night Can not control your body From all the terrors inside Darkness fills your heart You want so much to hide Here I sit On a cold dark night Wondering what the future brings My heart fills with fright People do not understand What goes on in my son's land They do not know him They don't hold his hand The fears that he shows We are the only ones that know In a world so full of people We seem all alone Wishing there were a magic pill To make things all great Wishing the rain Could not flood his gates Wishing he could Be a happy boy Sitting quietly Playing with his toys Laughing and playing Like the other kids do Getting good grades Getting along good in school Deep in his heart I feel his aches and pains For I am his mother I know how his heart rains He does not want To live like this I know For only I wish To others he could show The happiness he feels inside That fills my heart with pride People do not understand him That is why my heart cries Wishing his moods Would not be so blue Wishing that others Could understand him too Wishing that schools Could just cooperate Wishing here lonely His life could be great I wish that he Gets the help that he needs Wishing in life He does succeed Not knowing what to do With a boy so happy AND blue Filled with anger and hostility Only wanting others to see To the hospital I can not let him go For he is a baby That only I seem to know His pain is invisible Behind a smile so bright Wishing others could see What can make his heart light There are three children in there One is nice as can be That is the one I wish everyone could see Then there is the angry one Who hurts others until they cry He will tell you I hate you And laugh as he hurts you There is my sad son Does not know what he has done Wonders why as people are mad Asks "Why are you sad" The little looks on his face Are filled with such sadness A boy locked inside A world filled with madness I love him so dearly As I sit here so teary Wonder what I could do Have I been a good mother What could I have done different So he did not end up this way My heart fills with thunder As I pray to God each day Please give me the strength Patience to deal Please let people know His disability is real Please help them understand Do for him what is best Please look over us lord Keep us all safe in this land I wonder why is my son Stuck in this body That does not not cooperate Will he ever be free From this bipolar gate If you need more support feel free to email me... you also might benefit from a few yahoo groups: ourbpkids, bpkids, and bipolarkids. Source(s): Mom of son with several psychiatric diagnoses

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Right now your son is receiving out patient treatment. Have any of the psychiatrists suggested in-patient treatment? I know he's only 6 but it might be necessary to 'jump start' the treatment if you know what I mean. Has he been labeled as 06 (emotionally disturbed)? He might need a level 5 program or even a level 6 program at school. If he continues to hit the kids and teachers, he will be put in a level 5 program but he needs the label first. Find out which schools in your district have a level 5 program.Level 6 programs are located in private facilities. Abilify is a strange choice of medication for him. That is usually used for teenagers. Children don't respond well to Abilify as it can heightens their aggressive side. I will get a lot of thumb downs for this but here it goes: Perhaps you need to focus less on school and more on his psychological well being. Remove him from school and focus on daily psychiatric treatment or send him to an in-house psychiatric facility. Talk to his psychiatrists about this. The school counselors are not allowed to make these suggestions even if they think it's best. Being held back by one year isn't the end of the world so please consider this. If his behavior does not improve, you will be forced to make some hard and painful decisions. I'm sure you already realize this. Obviously you can not allow your son to terrorize and threaten the emotional and physical well being of his siblings. He will have to be removed from the house and placed in a group home, permanent hospital or foster care. What is your husband's role in all of this?

eightieschic

Have you considered an exorcist ? ☼ ////

LARRY J7

maybe you should have him hospitalized

Turtle Isle

Bless your heart- no wonder you can not sleep! You have your hands full and by any means do not think what I am about to say is rude in any way. I know that a behavioral hospital would do him best. You are not doing a bad job at all- its just you need a team to help your little man overcome whatever he is going through. It will help, I promise. If any one is ever in fear for their lives or their loved ones- this is the best thing you can do to make things better.

*Taylor Tot*

I suggest paying the big bucks and getting professional help. Your kid needs a psychiatrist. On the other side of this is the fact that i dont know you and you may be a terrible parent. Consider that you may have done this yourself by allowing the kid certain things you should have not and vice versa. Also, you can put a lock on the outside of a kids door.

Mr. Willie

Eightieschic of course has the best answer for you, but i jus wanted to wish you tons of luck and i hope you have a support system.. my boy is almost 6 an it breaks my heart thinking about a little boy his age with such rage.. poor little guy, poor mom!

Emily May 11/10/08 :)

this a very serious situation you have here I have a son who experienced similar problems a lot of this can be addressed the you what contacted me personally and maybe I can point you in the right direction names John email [email protected] please there is help for but you need information in order to get it.

John T

i think he needs to be in a psychiatric hospital. and he needs to be taken off the abilify that is a depression medicine and probably making his behavior worse especially since he is 6. i didn't even think abilify was approved for kids.

sammi

I'm so sorry that you are having to cope with all this. I don't have much to offer except to say that there has recently been news about cortisol levels in children being linked to aggressive behaviour. It may be worth discussing this with your doctor and getting him tested, if he does prove to have low cortisol (this is a stress hormone) then you can look into both conventional and alternative treatments. Short term, licorice can help your body use the cortisol it makes more efficiently (see last article about half way down) You can ask advice from the health food shop. (Never forget most modern medicines are based on plants and herbs, we just reformulate them so we can then charge lots of money for the benefit!) I would urge you to look at this as a hormone imbalance can usually be treated, take the articles with you to the doctor to show him. I really wish you luck.

Em

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