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  • "How to Destroy America!" This One IS VERY Thought provoking! We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, Mexifornia, explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal - was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream. Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'" Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.". Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds. Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities." "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high. school." "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population." "My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus'. instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo." "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them." In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America. deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book.". There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in. America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength.". Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream!! Thought provoking? Send it on!! --------------------------------------… Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com

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    The Coming Darkness A Warning for Americans: A message from South Africa 20th March 2004 People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement). Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country. (Read what happened in S. Africa at the following website~it's where we are headed if we don't heed the warnings. The story is ¾ down the page. "The Coming Darkness")

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So, What are we as Americans willing to sacrifice in order to halt this percieved destruction of our nation and way of life? The time for debate has passed, the time for action is upon us.

RENEGADE.

I'm for limited legal immigration, and people learning english if they want to work and live in the United States, I'm also for the US/Mexico border fence, and a sober, dry-eyed, fact-filled look at everything that has to do with relations between our two countries, starting with the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo, and coming forward from that. I'm also for looking at corporations that've heavily promoted 'globalization' over productivity and a self-sustaining economy, and the rest of the half-baked folderol that's been shoveled at us in lieu of well-considered policy concepts. I don't know what kind of pot they're smoking at Harvard or wherever these people go to school these days, but if a majority of americans are standing up and saying 'hey, um, Mr/Mrs Representative, there, um, border and immigration laws'? If that's being said, and this next Congress turns out to be as hearing-impaired as the last batch was, well it really doesn't matter how good the car is, if the driver's drunk or asleep at the wheel, it can't end well... On the flip side, there is a small 'componement' of alarmism in all of this, plus a dash of the old xenophobia. And, perhaps in this 21st century world, where some countries have really let themselves go to hell, maybe a bit of that really isn't out-of-place. There seems to be a global trend to scapegoat our country rather than other nations and peoples looking to themselves for the solution to their own problems, and it's kind of sad. Mexico, as one example, has the theoretical economic capacity to support all of its' citizens in reasonable style, but for years has chosen not to, as the United States has provided them with a convenient 'easy out'. The printed word is not yesterdays' invention, and there's no marvel mystery magic to what success we enjoy in the country today. Matter of fact, those computer things have been around for quite a while, too. What IS lacking, though, is a sense of responsibility on the part of these client countries who think it's their god-given right to enter our country at will. Time will tell how it works out, I think a positive approach is to keep expressing your unrelenting and active support to your representatives and state legislature for better immigration enforcement, and the abandonment of the whole multicultural business. I don't know if it exactly has to be 'learn english, or get the hell out', but there's definitely room for improvement on assimilation concepts, but none of it matters a whole lot if immigration goes 'runaway'. And, that means the enforcement side of things has to be continual, and ongoing, and improved, which I think they really are trying, but if you figure that there's an estimated 12 million people in our country illegally, that's a tall order for anybody to fill. Turning off the magnet of employers willing to hire illegal aliens as well as public benefits getting extended and so forth will be two key parts of this. While we're at it, there should be an honest discussion about ending welfare as we know it today, people need to get out and get jobs and they can start doing 'the jobs that illegal aliens won't be hired to do anymore', or something like that. Where there's a will, there's a way, and if people are out there, sober, employed, and making it happen for themselves, then there'll be less call for swollen, debt-ridden state budgets, too. This kind of thing may cramp some politicians' styles, but since they were more or less part and party to allowing all of this to go on to begin with, if not actively sponsoring and aiding and abetting themselves, they can go ahead and cope with some style cramping, there. We have a good country, which is why people are practically breaking down the door to get in. What's lacking, though, is a good national public movement to keep all things immigration and employment-related clean, clear, and above-board as they belong. I think we also need to work with Mexico and other countries, to actively help them to realize their own successes, so there's more of a spirit of partnership, and more incentive to keep all things lawful and in good faith between our country and theirs. You build a school by stacking one brick atop the other, anyplace there's granite and sand, there's components for making concrete, concrete can be poured into forms to make bricks, cinder block is also a great construction material, turns out, Mexico's got a BIG concrete company, they just need to develop more production output, and actually start laying in the roads etc necessary to bolster Mexico's infrastructure. You build roads, you build schools, you build hospitals, you build factories, pretty soon you've got the basic building blocks of a more economically successful country, more sustainable etc. NOT rocket science, but what's needed again is more honest and frank discussion between our countries to help both get pointed in the directions they need to go in, and with full observance of all relevant laws, including labor laws. If, for some reason, it turns out that there's some kind of problem in making all that happen, then it could be that we just have to have a focus on enforcement, and prevention, to exclude people from countries that flat don't have it together and don't show any signs of being willing to reform anytime soon. OUR country should not be allowed to degrade to accomodate corruption and incompetence elsewhere. Now, there's an economic angle, here, too. Again in the instance of Mexico, it's been reported that some 17 billion dollars' worth of revenue has been generated in the state of Texas, where 'migrant'(illegal alien) labor has been tacitly 'invited'(tolerated, aided and abetted, pick your terminology), and 17 million dollars is a Lot Of Money. Like really, a lot, and stuff. But, this in turn raises the question of whether or not it's more desirable to have the laws observed, upheld, and enforced, or whether conversely it's more desirable to reap the benefits of that additional economic input, AND whether, at the end of the day, the economic benefit outweighs additional demands on our national tax structure, our infrastructure, societal impact such as the multilingual thing you mentioned(we COULD learn spanish, but the question is WHY we'd have to, they're coming to our country, not vice versa), and above all whether we can continue to be good neighbors while in the midst of what ultimately works out to a large-scale economic competition. It's also fair to say that Mexico would basically fold up like a cheap kite economically were it not for their business with our country. Our country keeps their economy afloat with the proceeds of real labor, such as illustrated above, as WELL as the massive influx of illegal drugs into the USA from Mexico, and god knows what else goes on, truth be told. Speaking OF drugs, I just read that it's believed that POT is now the biggest selling cash crop in Washington State...hmmm....things that make ya go 'hmmm'.....

gokart121

Thank you! Yes, extremely thought provoking and certainly made the hair stand up on the back of my neck, just reading it!

Daisy

I got this 4/30/05 from a friend and I couldn't agree more....finally someone to write-in in '08.

johnnydean86

That's not cool!

DARIA. - JOINED MAY 2006

That's very disturbing. Not too surprising though, as I knew there had to be a plan behind all this madness. I'm sorry that some people have been so brainwashed into feeling like victims that they can't see the truth in this. The only way the illegals could understand is if this began to happen to their home countries. Still I don't think most of them would make the connection between it happening to them and to us, as they think we deserve it. We must resist the propaganda and save our country.

DJ

The author of the book is actually Victor Davis Hanson. Good book. So, how do I become white? I am willing to help solve this problem. Are there any hot blonde, blue eyed girls here? And if there are, how willing are you to help your country? Lets make some Mexican blue eyed babies. - I meant white as in the culture, not the race. I know that I need to do more than watching Seinfeld reruns and having a dog. Maybe I should jog in the mornings to Starbucks. Or maybe I'll stop eating tacos. I am sure it will help in forging a single culture. - You want to talk, send me an email through my profile.

sin7

Sigh, I've read it, I agree with it. Combine it with Lou Dobbs's book (you can squint through the topic sentences to shut out the hype, the reasoning so far seems sound.) So now what? -- sin, what does white have to do with it? As Lamm said, we can be multi-racial, just not multicultural. We are supposed to join into a single culture. -- eat all the tacos you like. Food isn't an issue. We LIKE the food. You're white already, you poor sap... or at least you sound American, which isn't necessarily white.

DAR

All I hear is "Blah, Blah, Blah..." Did our country wake up one morning and say..."Oh dear...we have and immigration problem..." ?? No, the immigration problem has been here for years and it still has not destroyed our great country.

Guitarman59

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