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Is it a pain importing Mini DV footage to iMovie?

  • I have established that with my current Mac configuration (1.33 Ghz G4 running OSX 10.4 with imovie HD) I can only import camcorder footage from mini DV tape (not, for example, from HDD recorder camcorders). This is a bit of a pain as I want to use a camcorder to video my students' presentations and be able to play them back fairly quickly during the same lesson. Does anyone have experience of importing to Mac from mini DV? Should I simply ditch my current Mac system in favour of a G5 processor with iLife '08 that (I beleive) can handle HDD footage? I'm not bothered about the quality of the footage, particularly.

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    Apple Macs have been able to capture MiniDV via Firewire for almost 10 years. It's what firewire was designed for - and what iMovie was designed to work with. Things have moved on, of course, and many camcorders now use tapeless systems, but any edition of iMovie on any Mac with firewire can capture and edit MiniDV with ease. The latest iMovie 08, which requires OSX10.5 (Leopard) and an Intel processor can handle just about anything - and that also includes MiniDV and also HDV.

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Capturing MiniDV footage is easy on any system, Mac or PC, but it's done in real time i.e. an hour of video takes an hour to capture. Playing them back is a different issue though - you can plug the camcorder into a TV and use it like a VCR.

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Have you tried using StreamClip http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/video/mpegstreamclip.html to convert the HDD files from the very highly compressed MPEG2 files the HDD (and flash memory) camcorder produce? Do you have to download them for immediate playback? How about just rewinding the miniDV tape to the start of the last presentation and play that back from the camcorder connected to a TV? What experience are you looking for in the importing of DV from miniDV tape to a Mac G4? My son's G4 PowerBook with iMovie takes standard definition DV in at real-time - that is, 8 minutes of DV takes 8 minutes to import. But that is normal - and the same for all Macs (whether G4, G5 - which I use - or Intel-Mac (also in the house) or PCs importing DV from miniDV tape. Upgrading to a faster processor (and newer machine) is always helpful when it comes to CPU-intensive tasks, but this will not speed the Real-time DV import. High Definition video is a different - but similar story. HDV takes longer than realtime and requires you to install the Apple Intermediate Codec using "custom install" of the QuickTime component from the MacOSX system discs. Import time is longer than real-time and very dependent on CPU speed for the rendering. iLife08/iMovie08 can handle HDD footage - again, I believe StreamClip is still required - but a G5 will not handle AVCHD compressed high definition video because and Intel-Mac is required. So... to answer your question directly, "Is it a pain importing Mini DV footage to iMovie?" No. It is not - if standard definition, then all you need is a 4-pin to 6-pin firewire cable to connect the DV port on the miniDV camcorder to the firewire 400 port on the Mac... Import through iMovie. 15 minute presentation takes 15 minutes to import. StreamClip will take some time to convert the data files... Here's an alternative that just worked with my Sony HDR-HC1 (though it should work with any miniDV tape camcorder: Connect your camcorder with the firewire cable, and launch iMovie... Press record on the camcorder (you need a tape in it) AND press import on iMovie. I just recorded several minutes - real-time - on the tape and straight into iMovieHD05. I tried just importing without hitting record on the camcorder with mixed (not good) results. When the camcorder is recording at the same time, it worked great and consistently... so, presuming this works, there is NO transfer time. BE CAREFUL, standard definition video uses about 13 gig per hour onto the hard drive. I presume that G4 does not have much available hard drive space and you NEVER want to get below 10% available space.

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