Do Dutch people feel more Spain-like or more Germany-like?
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Considering that Spain occupied the Netherlands centuries ago but did not occupy Germany. Didn't this make the Netherlands more fiesta-like with some kind of Tapas bars and Spanish rice and Spanish guitar? New York City where the Puerto Rican spanish-speaking people live they call it Spanish Harlem. Wouldn't Spanish Harlem also be what Haarlem in the Netherlands was called when Spain colonised the Netherlands? Where's the Spanish element in the Netherlands, it was part of Spain? Is there something Spanish-like about Dutch architecture? So then instead the Dutch are German and listen to this Schlager and drink beer and are big on soccer....same as Germany.... so are the Dutch closer to the Spanish or the Germans? Aren't there Dutch Catholics because of Spain? And these Dutch Catholics would not be German Lutherans? So why is the culture more German-like with the beer?
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Answer:
Answering your first question: Back then, the Netherlands were property of Spain. However, Spain did not exactly rule the Netherlands: the Netherlands consisted of several small kingdoms/duchies/etc and the Dutch were ruled by their own "leaders", not by the Spanish. The Spanish king had little influence on them. This is also the reason there is nothing Spanish-like about the Dutch. When Philips II became emperor of Spain, he wanted to centralize the government i.e. getting direct control over all his property (which he didn't have yet). He also wanted all the people living in his country to become catholic. The Dutch weren't (Calvinists, which is btw not Lutheran which is German), and that's how the Dutch revolt started initially. Eventually, the Northern Netherlands became independent. The southern Netherlands remained under Spanish control. That's why the Flemish (Dutch-speaking majority of Belgium) are mainly catholic and the (northern) Dutch are protestant (though nowadays most of the Dutch are secularized). Actually, this might be one of the only things the Spanish left in the Netherlands. I think you should not forget that Dutch is different from German. German and Dutch are not mutually intelligible, and we don't listen to German Schlager at all. We are big in soccer, but Spain is as well. Moreover, Americans drink beer as well, don't they? So in conclusion: the Dutch are more German-like than Spanish-like, even though that's strange to say because then you should say English are German-like as well. The southern Dutch (Flemish) are catholic because of Spain, that's true. The Dutch protestants, however, were Calvinists, not German Lutherans. About Spanish Harlem I can't tell you a lot, it was founded as Harlem and they probably called it Spanish Harlem just like you have Chinatown. Hope this helps!
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I guess Dutch feel Dutch-like.... *doh*
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Haven't you read a history book?! Yes the Netherlands have been in a war with Spain in the 16th century, but the current tapas bars aren't from back then! And no, Haarlem wasn't like Spanish Harlem right now, Haarlem was very resistant towards the Spanish in the 16th century. Only the Southern provinces were under constant Spanish rule and that's where you can find Catholics, the Northern provinces have been in constant war with Spain. The Dutch republic was found during this war and was found by the 7 Northern provinces. As you might know, the Dutch had the world's greatest economy during this time (we call this the golden century). The reformation was also during this period and the Netherlands weren't really influenced by Luther, but they were by Calvijn. So no, the Dutch are not Lutherans. The Netherlands is next to Germany, so cultural influences have something to do with geographical reasons. We all speak Germanic languages and the two countries have had economic relations for several centuries. Beer has been a drink for thousands of years, since the water was polluted (we didn't have sewers back then) people had to make drinks that killed bacteria. Alcohol kills most bacteria. The reason we don't make wine is due to our climate, it's not warm enough. Beer contained less alcohol in the 16th century and everyone drank it, even kids. We generally don't listen to German Schlagers, but we have got our own Dutch music. Just like there is English music or Spanish music. And yes, we love our football (you yankee's may call it soccer). A word you stole from us Europeans, cause how many feet are involved in your football anyway? Just curious, how many assumptions are you going to make on this website about Dutch culture? I would really like to advice you (if you are truly interested) to read the book of Jonathan Israel called 'The Dutch republic: it rise, greatness and fall'.
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