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What is National Service like for a foreigner?

  • I am 19 and working. How ever im living with my father, he wants to apply for PR, and if so do i become a PR too or do i have the choice of not being one. His decision all depends on me. I would like to become a PR also because Singapore is my home and i have been living here for more then 10 years, and i think i would actually like to join National service. How ever. I have friends who are in national service who are Singaporean, and i have friends who are in national service who are half angmoh and half Singaporean. They say it is okay and stuff. But what would it be like for an ang moh. Would I experience any racial issues or anything. and what is national service like in general.

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    I agree with what Alan said. It will be an unforgetable experience. But like any life experience, there will be its ups and downs. its also the time when you see who your true friends are. don't worry about discrimination. there shouldn't be any. However, the fact that you are caucasian would make you stand out. although i don't believe there will be any ill intent, but because you stand out, you might be asked/volunteered to be Overall In Charge of your sections during parts of the initial training. this is usually a rotational role during training. i knew of a hong kong guy during my NS days who barely spoke a word of english and only some broken mandarin. Despite the language barrier he got on fine. i am a 2nd generation PR, so i had to serve NS. not sure if the policy has changed, but if you dont wish to serve NS, all you have to do is not take on the PR-ship with your father. Apply for PR-ship on your own merit. but if you are a dependant, like i was when my father got his PR-ship, then you are likely to have to serve NS.

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Basically there's no racial issues. Everyone is treated about the same in National Service (Unless you have some influential parents working for the government, we termed these guys 'white horses') Since you have been here for 10 years, I believe you have very much blended into Singapore culture and I don't think food and language will be of any issue to you. National Service to many (I believe) is fun and unforgettable. Of course, this would depends on which unit you are posted to and the vocation you are in. While some may complain that its tough, others (like me) find that its fun. To me, it's part of growing up and in some sense gives me a form of identity as a Singaporean. So don't worry and have fun while you are at it.

Alan

just like how a chinese will be treated in the US army.... i need not say more..

superduper friendly guy

i have a friend who is a SAF Sniper in singapore army, he loves NS, he told us he is trained to kill Officers and kill Signallers , kill all the Officers and kill all the Signallers in singapore army

lily

There would be no racial issues here. Generally, there might be a few racial jokes here and there but they are quite harmless. An ang moh, Indian, Chinese or Malay goes through National Service quite the same. When you get enlisted, most of us will end up in Pulau Tekong for 3 months for Basic Millitary Training (BMT). For the first 2 weeks, it's confinement and you would not be able to book out. After which you would be able to every weekend. After 3 months, you will be posted to a Unit/Camp on mainland Singapore. You will be given your vocation (Signaller, Infantry, Armour Personnel, Airforce, Navy etc.) and you will remain in that camp for the rest of the 2 years. After the 2 years, it's re-service and we are still liable to serve our nation for another 10 years. Our model of National Service is QUITE similar to Israel, Taiwan and South Korea. All these countries have compulsory National Service too. On the lighter note, NS can be very memorable and fun. It really depends on your outlook and attitude. If you "chao keng" (try to cheat your way through), your life will be miserable in NS. But if you do your part and try to do it well, time passes fast and you learn a great deal. What was most memorable were the late night guard duties with my bunk mates, talking, joking and feeling all so sleepy throughout the night. Oh and also when some of us talk about how we we miss our families so much. HAHA! NS will help us realise the importance of our family, our security and the peace in Singapore.

PartyAnimal

Happy to know that U want to serve ur NSF (National Service Full time) after getting ur PR approved. It put some of our 'A' level boys to shame as they think that they have wasted 2 good years. The Poly guys are more willing and prepared to play their parts. Ang Mok or half Ang Mok with PR or Singapore Citizen status make no differences during NSF. All are treated equally with all other races and all have important tasks to accomplish in their various vocations and appointments. Stay positive, looking forwards for challenging tasks and with an open and learning mindset.

Passo L

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