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Where can I learn some japanese kougo / japanese colloauial language?

  • Where can I learn some japanese kougo / japanese colloquial language? For example, in spoken japanese, "dewa" is spoken as "jya" And I always hear other terms such as "-cha", "-kya", "-nachatta", "-chatta", ...... What does these mean? Where can I learn them?

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    I suggest you find the nearest Japanese person and start talking to them. Offer to help them with their English in return for some Japanese lessons. After discussing these with my Japanese wife, we came up with these answers. As you already know, all of these are examples of informal speech. Jya is a form of a Japanese dialect (Hogen). Most often used with jya ne. (see ya) Westerners have many ways to say see you later: later, see you, see ya, see you around. It is similar to this idea. I know -cha and -kya from: ikanakucha (have to go) ikanakya (have to go) -chatta I'm having a hard time putting into words. It seems to either take responsiblity away from the speaker or soften the answer for the listener. Somewhat akin to how Americans use "like" He...like...left already Kare ga mou ichatta. That's my best guess anyway. nachatta is the same rule applied to the verb naru (to become) My wife often says to me Gomen, Seri ni nachatta. Sorry, I'm having my period. She's taken responsibility away from herself for why I can't get laid that night. Maybe too descriptive, but I hope that example hammers the point home.

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The best way is you have Japanese friends. Probably ,"dewa", "jya", "-cha","-kya", "nachatta",etc aren't taught in schools. These words are basically used for close friends. One of meanings,"dewa", "jya" is "Good luck" or "Good bye" or "See you".

Eiji

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Brettski

i bought a book which has colloquials in it: here are some; aho! - fool bijin - beautiful woman charinko - bicycle chotto - hey! / wait! domo - thanks/ hi ja ne - bye! kakko- cool/handsome/trendy maji de - honestly mashi - better meshi - meal subarashi - fantastic! sugoi - great! yokatta - good i always here these words when i watch Jdrama or Animes. other colloquials are some bad words, i better not post them here. ♥

ilovepurple

Some of the forms you've listed here will be covered in an intermediate Japanese grammar course. For example, "-chatta" is a shortened version of the verb 'Shimau' plus a 'te' form, which means either to completely finish something, or to regret something. For example - "ichatta" = "itte shimaimashita" = Oh no, he/she/they have gone! This is covered in the Genki II Japanese textbook, and probably other textbooks, so my first suggestion is keep studying and some of it will become clear! Most textbooks will have some colloquial language. Apart from speaking and listening to Japanese people, my favourite way to learn colloquial Japanese is to watch Japanese TV dramas! You can probably find them subtitled online at various video sharing websites. They are full of colloquial expressions and have the translations in the subtitles, so you can usually work out what things mean. Good luck!

boxcar

Sometimes sounds are dropped. I think... -tewa -> "e" sound dropped -> -twa->tya(cha) ikanakutewa->ikanaku-tya(cha) -dewa->"e" spund dropped->dwa->dya->jya. soredewa->sore-jya -chatta --????I have no idea..

tarumemu

In some ways the Japanese are snootier about their language than the French (even if they ARE alot nicer about it). It is very difficult to find books written about dialects in English, but you can find them in Japanese. For many years the Japanese government really pushed the idea that they were ONE people with ONE language, which was of course completely rediculous, every region, every ken (prefecture), every big city, even every region of every prefecture and some towns and villages have their own "ben" or dialect. About ten years ago the Japanese government decided that these "bens" were a good thing. Since that time they have had regular TV programs about them (copies may be available at Japanese book and video stores. You might wanna check) and even have a national dialect tournament every year. Honestly the best way to learn them is to come here. I myself speak a little Yamagata-ben (i.e. Dogo sa igu be/noga? = doko e ikimasu ka?). I learned it here. If you are now or are going to be a college grad, then I would suggest applying to the JET Program. It's a 1-5 year English teaching exchange program and will place you in parts of the country that tourists usually don't get to see. Check out the details at : http://www.jetprogram.org

David M

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