I am not able to learn Japanese. I don't know how to go about learning the grammar?
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I got interested in learning Japanese 3.5 years ago. I used to just copy kanji characters for fun. Later I started learning hiragana, katakana and some vocabulary. Then I joined an online correspondence course for Japanese but I finished half of it and didn't do it more because it was very slow and there were some other disadvantages (the teacher never answered any of my questions). I have loads of books for learning Japanese, especially for particles and "grammar for dummies". I love "Japanese grammar for dummies" book but I don't have patience with drilling and exercises. I like reading the theory but I feel like sleeping when I see grammar exercises. Then I thought that maybe I could pick up Japanese grammar by just reading bilingual Japanese text (Japanese with English on the side) and "the grammar will come". Like this I learned to recognize quite a few kanji and understand more on how kanji work and how some grammar structures work. Maybe this is called a "passive learning". I have no idea how to study the "aggressive" way and reinforce the grammar rules in my head. As most of my learning has been "passive", (reading, listening) I have big troubles with writing and speaking. Although I can understand some words written in kanji but I could never write that word out of my memory. The same, I think, I have no idea how to talk in Japanese because I have no idea what comes after what and there are so many transitive-intransitive verbs. I get a feeling I am just fooling myself while believing I can learn Japanese myself. Do you have any idea what could help with "idiomatic usage of Japanese" and all their idioms and idiomatic phrases + complexity of verbs and particles?
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Passive learning is really good for input, but if you really want to speak/write Japanese, you have to do it. Get a penpal. See if that person will do Skype. And I also heard that if you Skype, you can leave some setting open, and people will talk to you. Right now, it sounds like you are using Japanese as a kind of super-jigsaw puzzle -- figuring out how the "rules" work and how it fits together. And there's nothing wrong with that! It's a great mental exercise and a way to pass the time. But, it isn't really learning the language. (-: I see a lot of Japanese who do the exact same thing with English. If you can't find a native speaker to help you (although, all things are possible on the internet), I suggest you recruit a study buddy to work with you. Finally, and I don't know if you'll have the patience for this, but Ben Franklin said he learned French by reading an article or short essay in French, translating it into English, then hiding the original, and trying to re-translate the English back into French. Kind of tedious, but certainly useful and something you can do all by yourself.
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there is funny solution i think I have the similar problem as you have. I'm Japanese and enjoyed learning English but English is difficult for me. so I could teach you Japanese , Could you help me learning English?
Daisuke Utsuda
Take classes with an actual teacher; do not do online lessons since they can not check whether your usage and pronunciation are accurate. Also, do not use online translators as they cannot measure innuendo or intent. Do volunteer for language exchange in your area with native Japanese students. You help them with their English, and in return they help you with your Japanese.
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You're not kidding yourself by thinking you can learn Japanese, you're just not maximizing your study time. You need a good SRS regimine to build your active vocabulary! Good sites I like are http://japaneserecall.com for vocabulary and http://guidetojapanese.org for grammar. Memorize the grammar rules from guidetojapanese after you've been doing recall for about a month or something.. it helps actually being able to read the example sentences and stuff. Vocab and grammar can really be learned independantly though. I really like Recall, it's a good SRS system.. try it, seriously. It will help you.
Actually, if you have an iPod, you could get apps to help you with various aspects of the Japanese language. The main apps I use are Human Japanese (I recommend this one highly) and iStart Japanese. These are the ones that are the overall courses, that teach you about how to construct sentences and give you some background on culture and vocabulary. Then I use Kanji Touch to help with my kanji, RealKana to help with Hiragana and Katakana, and AccelaStudy to build my vocabulary. iStart Japanese Lite (1 chapter): Free iStart Japanese (Full): $2.99 Human Japanese Lite: Free Human Japanese (Full): $9.99 Accela Study Lite (Gives you 200 words): Free Accela Study (6000 words): $10.99 If you don't have an iPod, there are many books that can help you. Quite frankly, the drills are what you have to do. For reference, I use Barron's Japanese Grammar that gives all the fundamentals (it's a little red book). Also, you could ask a native Japanese speaker about the language or try out your language skills with a penpal. Lingozone.com is where I met my penpal, and I don't talk to him fully in Japanese. A lot of people on that website know two languages, and my penpal knows English and Japanese.
Seline
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