How is it to be a chef?

How can someone be a religious Jew and a chef?

  • Specifically, my question is in regard to how does a such a chef deal with issues such as "Basar B'Chalav" regarding "Bishul" and "Hana'ah". While admittedly, this question is specific to a certain chef (who didn't answer my previous inquiries regarding this issue), nevertheless, I'm also interested in other people's thoughts on the matter as well. I have heard that it is actually somewhat difficult for an observant Jew to become a chef, let alone get a job afterwards due to these issues.

  • Answer:

    Many appreciate your valid point, BMCR. (Additional questions to raise would involve one's ability to cook with and match wines to various menus.) Your specific chef, however, is a Lebanese Muslim living in Mexico. He has been outed so many times. (Documentation can be provided.) In Israel (and in communities with large observant Jewish populations), it's easy for good shomer mitzvot chefs to find work. This is clearly not a factor for the aforementioned. He is unable to answer your queries as he is clueless regarding halacha and Judaism. (On the other hand, he does seem to know quite a bit about Muslim culture.) FYI: Regarding training for shomrei mitzvot chefs, Jerusalem has an interesting solution: http://www.jerusalemculinaryinstitute.com/ P.S. If the asker e-mails me, I'll be happy to send humorous examples of available online material indicating not only the Sunni Muslim background of said Jew-hating chef, but other (truly) entertaining tidbits as well. (Alas,despite empty claims to the contrary, there's no indication that he possesses any familiarity at all with even simple Hebrew texts. Let's not even go there.) ============== Addendum: Here are a couple of random picks for the edification of all.(Yes, of course, there are more.) http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100717144132AARa7hE http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ag1332Juilfy4mTw.McpcZU2DX1G;_ylv=3?qid=20100723094203AAM8PVH [Just who exactly is meant by "us"?]

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all i can think of is working in a kosher place. it solves all the problems you mentioned. ----well,i dont know what to say,i dont know where you are living and waht are the conditions there- but basically,i you care about it-or any other jew-you can ask a rabbi about it,he can solve this issue if you dont care what the rabbi has to say-then you also dont have to bother yourself on these issues..

Ruth Feldman

There aint such a thing son! I've never known someone being religious and a jew and a Chef, unless you believe that chikeen soup is the best dish on this here planet. Steel Brand new KJ. Jew husband: Put you coat on Schewitza dear I'm going to the bar. Jew Wife: Burgenblatz are you taking me out for a drink? Jew Husband: Don't be silly, I'm turning the heat off while I am gone..

Stainless Steel

This isn’t the first time that you made assumptions about things that you know nothing about, your attitude doesn’t surprise me anyways. Let me enlighten you; a chef is a person that studied culinary arts, anyone that goes to university can learn it. 1. Cooking: the first thing you have to understand is all chefs are cooks the deference between chefs and cooks is a cook only cooks a chef has to know how to cook, but is the administrator of the kitchen, a chef is in charge of menus staff and equipment, and testing out new recipes. A chef works 90% of the time in the office and less than 10% in the kitchen. Although a chef has to cook it doesn’t mean that he eats everything he cooks, cooks and chefs are people also they like and dislike certain aliments, in short they don’t eat or try very thing they cook 2. Administration: a chef has to make the work schedule, make changes for menu , sets up training and enhancement programs for the kitchen team, make daily reports, and make up and assure that the maintenance for the kitchen equipment and cleaning program is followed to the letter. 3. Schooling: in the universities that teach culinary arts it’s important to teach not only basic cooking methods , also Mathematics, cooking history, chemistry, physics, nutrition, languages, costing, storing, administration, management, accounting, projections, product identification, menu planning, kitchen planning, etc,,, A chef has to learn a specialty and general management, he has to know how to basic preparation for every type of aliment, and if the menu demands that you cook certain things a chef has to make the test plate pending approval of the food and beverage manager, or else he might as well work as a brick layer, because as a chef he will never be. @BMCR as a final note a chef doesn’t eat what he cooks he just cooks it, and if you didn’t know it I’m a vegetarian. So stop being silly, and try to make a point about thing that you know nothing about. BTW anyone can study to become a chef but to be a good chef you need creativity, enthusiasm, and drive, even atheists Zionsts can be chefs

Nabil

It is quite possible for a religious Jew to be a chef,they could work in a Kosher establishment.

It is possible

Kevin7

There are, in fact, kosher educational establishment that train chefs in Israel. Why do you assume they all have to be none kosher?

S B

When I first read your question, I did not really understand what you meant by "chef" but thought that you might think of someone working as a cook in a non kosher restaurant as you mentioned the forbidden mixture of milk and meat and Bishul Jisrael/Akum and Pessach. Now that you explained a bit more it get's clearer that you are thinking of a cook. In my eyes your question has two problems: 1) You do only seem to think that every culinary school is not kosher but I am pretty sure that culinary schools exist as well in Israel and suppose that they are kosher 2) You seem to think that "religious Jew" is automatically a static thing. Only because someone is religious now does not mean that the person was like that his whole life. I know someone who is now studying at a Yeshiva and had not even any idea how to Daven ten years ago - so this really does not mean anything. And if you have a special person in mind - why don't you just ask that person? That would be the easiest way to find out.

ツLev✡

You know who I am and what I stand for, nut don't you think that you're being a bit judgmental, I don't believe he's either but he sure sounds like a chef to me.

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