What is the foundation of Israel?

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  • I am curious why so many Christians on this section support Israel. I think most of you are from US because they don't get full news coverage there just the Israel side. They don't tell them what is going on in Gaza and they blame the Gaza people Here are my questions I have them numbered to make them easy for you 1- If Jesus was alive today and using what you know of him from the bible and not your own opinion what do you think he would say about the one sided way you talk about this situation in Gaza and your lack of human caring for Gaza people. 2- How do you think you can apply the story of the Good Samaritan using yourself as the Samaritan and Gaza as the injured man on the road? And why do you think this story was given to us what do you think the meaning was what do you think it was meant to teach us? 3) How do you square the fact that practising Jews have a hatred for Jesus the foundation of your religion? How do you feel about the fact that Mary is portrayed as a whore and Jesus as a liar and a fraud who is even now as we speak being boiled in semen in hell according to the Jewish religion? 4- Using the truth without deception and without paraphrasing or twisting answer honestly what does the Christian religion say is the criteria for going to heaven and who will be going to hell? and using that criteria do you believe that Jews will be going to heaven? 5- Is your support of Israel based on the belief that in order to hasten Armageddon you must fulfil end time prophecy and you think that by supporting Israel that that will make it happen sooner? Or if not sooner is that the reason you support Israel is because of end time prophecy? I doubt if any Christians will answer my questions for a number of reasons. First in order to justify their actions they would have to lie and I can tell you I will know if they do because I know about the bible. and the other reason is because if they do answer they will have to admit they are wrong and that would make them a hypocrite. So dear Christian brothers answer my questions if you dare. I am by the way the grandson of a Minister.

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    Most Christians believe Israel is necessary for the return of Christ and the fulfillment of Revelations. Armageddon and the new Jerusalem. I'm not a real religious Christian and I don't support anyone other than my family. I don't believe God is a real estate agent and I don't try to explain Jewish beliefs. It would be nice if Jewish folks were respectful enough of other religions to not disrespect or answer for them.

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Because they are genuine people who know what's right and what's wrong.... simple as that! They aren't about to sypathize for the hamas who believe in killing all those who don't support them. SERIOUSLY!!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!! The Israelis warn the palestinians b4 they bomb and tell them to get out with in 30 min. While hamas at most only gives them a 15 SECOND warning...(if lucky)... The Isrealis only want to bomb the areas with all the rockets, with no intensions to kill civilians, while Hamas has no value for life and bombs wrecklessly killing civilans on purpose!

Sabrina

I'm Catholic and I don't support Israel at all...it's against Jewish belief for one thing, and I think that Israel is committing horrible sins against God and the Palestinian people. I think it's mainly Protestant fundamentalists who support Israel, god knows why...and there are certainly enough of them

huz

Almost all of the U.S. supporters of Palestine here are Christian,including me. You are thinking of the "fundamentalist" or evangelical "Christian". They represent a very deviant strain of Christianity,both theologically and in terms of education and politics. They reject the concept of the New Covenant which is the core of Christianity; they really aren't Christian at all in my opinion and they are a minority of Christians even in America; elsewhere they are practically non-existent. The reason they come here is precisely because they embrace the Old Covenant,hence they regard Jews as continuing to be God's Chosen People; they can do wrong. Plus,evangelical tv ministers take large bribes from the zionist regime to promote it. Now there is an organization called Christians United for Israel (CUFI) which is attracting some attention but is largely considered an embarassment by mainstream Christians. Your comments on Islam and Christianity are correct; Judaism calls Jesus - Issa in Islam - the son of a whore; Islam reveres Him as a divinely inspired prophet,and venerates the Virgin Mary,who fundamentalist "Christians" regard as "the whore of Babylon". Basically they are a reverse-angle of messianic Jews: former Christians who have in essence embraced Judaism without realizing the contradiction. They are not representative. The first organized opposition to Zionism came from the Muslim-Christian Associations formed by the Catholic clergy all across Mandate Palestine in 1919. 75% of all Christians are Catholic and the Church was and remains a staunch supporter of the Palestinians. Former Archbiship of Jerusalem Michel Saaba ( a Palestinian) is now the head of the international Catholic peace organization Pax Christi. You mention the media; I think you also are permitting yourself to be misled by it. They give huge publicity to American redneck fundies,while ignoring mainstream Christians. Most Christians would like to see Palestine have a normal non-sectarian government that bans ethnic and religious discrimination. We do not favor the Holy Land being turned into a combination of Burbank and Nazi Germany by a fanatical jewish racial cult and we are deeply committed to a free and democratic Palestine. It belongs to Christianity and Islam,the two pillars of the one true faith of God; most "Jews" are atheists and the 20% who aren't are religious extremists. In 2001 the "Grand Rabbi" of Jerusalem publicly called for the mass sterilization of all Arabs on earth,wherever they might be and regardless of religion. But today's news is even more revolting than that. The current bloodbath is Gaza is a desecration of the Holy Land as well as one of the worst human rights catastrophes of the last fifty years. We want the zionist regime dismantled - utterly so. Christians and Muslims have dwelt in the Holy Land together in peace and harmony for at least half a millenium and we would like to do so again. We all know when the trouble started: it started when the zionists showed up. And it will not end until they are gone.

Duane

Probably because *most* Christians are reasonable and sane human beings, and they recognise that terrorism is immoral..... I also think they don't relish the idea of living as 'dhimmis' under sharia law in an Islamic world any more than Jews do, or any non Muslims, frankly. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

Kosher Ninja Chick JPA

I do agree with what you are saying. The US coverage is always going to make Israel out to be the good side... They're leaders should be convicted for their war crimes they have carried out this month.. However you look at it... no matter what your religion or race, Israel is doing the wrong thing. Killing innocent civilians, hoping that the hamas are hiding in between... and attacking a UN school. Sorry I'm not answering your numbered questions (im not religious.. i just have a strong view on this issue right now)

Cubejam

All nations will rise against Israel.And God will fight against the nations. it is written in the scriptures.

nobody

we support it for many reasons. Mostly because we see for ourselves when we travel there that it isn't this crazy evil place people like to lie and say it is. Secondly, most Christians identify with the liberal humanistic ideals of Israel. Its a relatively young and troubled democratic nation trying to make it in a bad neighborhood. The US wasn't any better when it was new. It had problems. Hopefully Israel can overcome its problems and grow to be as good as the US. Anyhow, LOL, what I was going to add is the Evangelical people in the USA would support Israel no matter what. This proves 2 things. 1) That they do indeed blindly support Israel 2) that the israel lobby in America is actually never going to change their minds either way.. is a waste of money trying to change these people's minds. American Christians just identify with Israel and its ideals and morals.. Sorry I didn't know I was supposed to do the #'s. LOL

Jarmen Kell (GLA)

95% of Christian Americans support Israel. Since the call of Abram, every covenant that God has made for the benefit of mankind was made with an Israelite. Because God does not break covenant! (Psalm 89: 30-37). It is written "When the Lord shall build up Zion, he shall appear in his glory. . . To declare the name of the Lord in Zion, and his praise in Jerusalem; when the people are gathered together, and the kingdoms, to serve the Lord. " (Psalm 102: 16-22).

Samsooma The Madruba

Cav, I concur with Frankie; Roman Catholics (not being fundamentalist scum) do NOT support Israel and its actions against innocent Palestinians. The recent Popes of Roman Catholicism have unilaterally condemned Israel. Neither is Israel supported by Quakers, Jehovah's Witnesses, or any other TRUE Christians who condemn violence and bloodshed. As Duane correctly mentioned, it's the Baptist (and other fundy) subhumans who scream for the blood of Palestinians because of their silly notions that some imaginary "god" gave Israel to the Jews. While I support an individual's right to worship the deity of their choosing, it all goes down the toilet when it's THEIR indoctrinations that determine (re: Bush) our foreign policy. What utter bullsh!t. Religion has no more place in politics than the color of the toilet paper our senators' wipes their collective @sses with. Though I have no problems with peace-loving Christians, I remain happy to be a Pagan in order that my brain isn't clouded by all the religious mumbo-jumbo. Edit to Sabrina: Aaaaaand---just where are those Palestinians supposed to GO in thirty minutes, since you Izzies have sealed up the borders? Get REAL, Sh!t-for-Brains.

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