Should Georgia, Romania and possibly Russia join the Six Nations (rugby)?
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Georgia and Romania are amazing european teams that in mine and most peoples opinion should be allowed to join the 6 nations as they are without doubt the best european teams outside of the six nations. Georgia & Romania are regular competitors in the Rugby World Cup and usually perform quite well. Italy have proven that they can compete in the six nations by regularly beating Scotland. In my opinion to expand the sport they need to expand the six nations to at least 2 other european nations (possibly 3 teams). And Russia an emerging rugby nation who have significantly improved in the 2000s and is a country which isn't quite sure its national sport would benefit joining the 6 nations as the prospect of a major world power having Rugby its number 1 national Sport. Do You Agree with my opinion or do you think that there are any other teams who should join instead and for what reasons do you believe that Georgia/Romania/Russia should/should not join the 6 nations
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"Most peoples opinion" is a pretty big exaggeration. First of all none of the three are competitive with any of the existing Six Nations -- Italy included. Even Italy A handed Georgia a solid thrashing in this years IRB Cup. Yes some have improved significantly -- particularly Georgia and Russia -- but they are not there yet. And Romania has yet to recover from the collapse of their entire sporting system in the early '90s. Along those lines, Spain has also improved a great deal -- why not include them as well. Or Portugal -- Romania barely won a squeaker against them in the last World Cup. The other big issue is that there simply isn't time in the NH schedule for an expanded Six Nations. For example, an English professional is looking at a minimum of 22 Premiership games, 3 Anglo-Welsh games, and six Heineken Cup games, along with any additional games they might play in the various knock-out rounds. An international is also looking at the Six Nations and the mid and end-of-year tests. The schedule is already jam packed without adding two more tests. Some people have mentioned the possibility of two tiers of European competition -- but that already exists in the various levels of the European Nations Cup. In fact there six levels below the Six Nations (ENC Divisons 1A through 2D) which already have promotion and relegation. There have been hints from the IRB that the long term plan might include promotion and relegation between the Six Nations and the ENC Division 1A, which is currently made up of Russia, Georgia, Spain, Portugal, Romania and Ukraine (Germany just got relegated and Ukraine promoted). But it won't be for a while -- none of the ENC teams are anywhere near good enough yet.
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The only way this would work, if there was two tiers in the 6N's. IE, 2 divisions, too many countries in one competition means more games! Hence, there would be too many games played causing many problems between the club v country and fixture problems! There is only so many matches a player can play in a season and only so many games a club can do without his international players! I agree it would be great to develop these countries in rugby, but it is not always realistic. I, myself, was very impressed with Georgia in the last RWC!
Welshchick
I agree with Welshchick. Two divisions of five teams each. Div 1 England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and France. Div 2 Italy, Roumania, Georgia, Russia and Spain. Also have promotion and relegation. Bottom team in Div i goes down and top team in Div 2 goes up.
Bill P
blm wrote "...Italy included. Even Italy A handed Georgia a solid thrashing in this years IRB Cup..." But Georgia were also with A team! They just wore the name of the Senior side, but the line-up was as for A. As for my answer, I think the only thing, that should be done is promotion-relegation system between 6N and ENC. But it seems to me that IRB are afraid that if a team like Scotland being relegated, they will lose some sponsors. The same money problem prevents Russian clubs participation in Amlin Cup - it's too far to travel to Russia.
Not yetbut I would like to see more friendlies between these teams and the six nations teams so we can tell when they are good enough to be considered. The only european team outside of the six nations that ever seem to tour are Romania. They had a very good team in the 80s and regularly used to beat the old five nations teams and probably should have been given a chance before Italy. With the amount of Georgians playing in the French leagues, I can see them getting up to the level of the six nations but as we only ever see them at world cups it's difficult to judge whether they will cope against the big European teams.
mark_the_legend_foster
Well in my opinion if they're going to put them in a competition I say that they should have a qualifying competition between Georgia,Romania & Russia too become the 7th team to compete in the 7 Nations with the other 6 Nations (England,France,Ireland,Wales,Scotland,I… every year.
yes they should, however it wouldn't be the 6 nations would it? it would be the 8 or 9 nations.
Zedakiah
Theres a good few reasons why it won't happen. One point the others havent covered is to do with money. The Six Nations currently holds the title of the oldest international rugby competition in the world - steeped in history and great rugby. They will be reluctant to let in 2/3 sides that play a much more lower quality brand of rugby. It could damage the Six nations image and make it look like a second rate competition. That could seriously hamper coverage and viewing figures - costing the Unions a fairly large chunk of cash. Theres also the issue of making the Six Nations boring. Nearly every game, bar Scotland Vs Italy, is exciting to watch given its implications and the quality of rugby played. Would you bother watching your side play against Georgia or another Eastern European team? No offense to them - its just to put my point into context about the difference in quality. Theres no easy way to get a nation to develope into a 'top 10' nation. The best way to do so is to let the country's rugby union develope itself, and get the IRB to invest into the infrastructure regularly to try and improve the countrys facilaties and increase rugbys image in the country. It would probably be worse to put them in the Six Nations and watch teams rack up 70+ points on them a game.
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