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Are Marines overrated?

  • First, I just want to say I'm not trying to bash, I am completely serious about these questions. How come if someone ask if Marines are better or tougher, people say marines but have no facts to back it up and instead say some thing like "First to Fight" or "Every Marine is a rifleman"? They say the Army is poorly trained but if you talk to anyone who served in the Army and Marines they will say the training is similar but the Army has better equipment. If you have people that served in both who say the training is similar, then why do people act like Marines are supermen? Another thing I don't get is why does the Marine Corps spend so much on its PR when it could go to something more usefull such as training and better equipment? What does MARSOC contribute that no other special operations group have? What kind of missions do they go on? Didn't they get kicked out of their first deployment? During the Battle of Fallujah, why didn't the media mention the army soldiers that took back the city when the marines were the ones that lost it? Infact it seems the media does that a lot. Why do people think the Marines are the first to fight when they never were the first to fight? Army Special Forces and CIA SAD teams were the first ones in Afghanistans not marines. During the Invasion of Iraq, the invasion was spearheaded by the Army and Marines and from what I heard the marines were going slower than the army and it slowed down the invasion. So would you agree that the Marine Corps is overrated? Is there something I'm not getting? Everybody says their jobs are different but from what I hear their jobs are the same.

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    Ok, so as a former Marine airwinger, I want to first commend you for having the courage to speak out about some of the real issues that the U.S. Marine Corps has. The American public only sees the PR commercials of a young man slaying a dragon that the Marine Corps puts out there to sucker recent high school graduates into joining. They have NO IDEA what the REAL Marine Corps is like and they have NO IDEA that the United States Marine Corps is notorious for treating its personell like children/sh*t versus treating them like grown men and women. ALOT of what you said is TRUE! The Marine Corps has the WORST equipment, duty locations, and last but not least, ZERO single women available in their sh*thole duty stations/locations if you are a straight/single unmarried young man aged 18-23. In short, yes I do believe that the Marine Corps is EXTREMELY overrated. Moreover, the Marine Corps DOES NOT offer sign on bonuses, DOES NOT have decent posts/duty stations, and uses shoddy/hand me down equipment from the Army and Air Force. Most importantly though, unlike the Army, Navy, and Air Force, the Marine Corps doesn't care about YOUR personal advancement in terms of obtaining a college education while serving on active duty as an enlisted Marine. When you enlist in the Marine Corps, you essentially become THEIR slave and have ZERO time for INTELLECTUAL improvement via on base college classes. Oh sure, you can go to the gym to improve yourself and they'll be all about that, but ask yourself this. What happens when you complete your first enlistment, decide to get out, and NO ONE will even consider you for a decent paying job because YOU DO NOT ALREADY POSSESS A COLLEGE DEGREE! I am LIVING PROOF of what happens to young men who decide to join the Marine Corps and decide to get out. The only jobs that I am "qualified" for are lower paying jobs such as Wally World, Home Depot, etc. Do you think that YOU could live off of $9 an hour and support yourself after getting out of the Marine Corps? Don't get me wrong, I am NOT anti-military in the least sense. However, PLEASE join a DIFFERENT branch of the service that WILL actually offer YOU something and won't try to deliberately screw you over like the Marine Corps is notorious for! Oh yeah, one last thing, the United States Marine Corps has the HIGHEST turn over rate for first termers out of ALL branches of the military and, yes Virginia, there is a REASON for this! . .

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Let me first say this. I was in the United States Army's Elite 82nd Airborne Division and I served in Al Fallujah in 2003 and 2004. If you didn't serve don't talk trash about any of my fellow Veterans regardless of branch of service. I know Marines who would have died for me and they know Soldiers who would have died for them. That being said: We have a tradition of competition and trash talking to each other. So I am going to say that the Army has better training and a Marine is going to say the opposite. In reality, they both receive good training, good equipment, and good leadership. Different styles of each, but effective combat. The Marines do have some pretty sweet commercials though. Who wouldn't want to climb fire mountain and slay a dragon?

dan f

Many Americans are raised under the assumption that their fighting men are better trained, better equipped, better led and drawn from a better selection of recruits than anyone else in the world. The British think the same thing (and us to some extent, too). Often, they're simply ignorant about certain facts. For instance, they don't know that we don't march into Kapok saying "Oh, our training is inferior to that of the US Marines. But let's do our inferior training anyway, so we can maintain a military for the sake of it". They don't know our School of Infantry runs a 72 day course, that the SAS is't the only special forces unit we have, that it takes 18 months to train an SAS Trooper, that we're better paid. Heck, a standard ARA Rifleman from any of the other Battalions would be a good match for a Marine infantryman. Both forces have their own elite units, but to assume one force's regulars are superior to another's extensively trained commandos would be highly reflective of one's stupidity.

apparently no, our government still has use of the marine corps...your take on the matter is purely personal and opinionated from generic facts any joe shmo can find on the internet. every branch has it's specific intended purpose with some similarities linking them together.

gregster

I would say Marines are better because we have higher physical and marksmanship standards. Our bean counters have more combat training than the Army's bean counters. But I do agree that the general public overrates the Marines Corps.

Hobo on a ham sandwhich

In short, yes. Equal training, lopsided equipment, funding, treatment. Those commercials and advertising and mostly just the common misconception that marines are better, are wrong. Is it true that Marines have a higher esprit de corps and morale and general loyalty to their branch? Absolutely, the Marines have a closer brotherhood and sense of badassness than any other branch. Simply being a marine is cause for respect.They're the proudest motherfkcers and they fight like it. That being said, that's all they have going for them. I read someone else's post and completely agreed with them, in terms of personal advancement in life, the marines simply aren't that great. You are not guaranteed your MOS, nor decent respect, nor are there very many MOSs that offer opportunity in the civilian world. In comparison to the Army, promotions come faster, there are more MOSs that are civilian-friendly/guaranteed and more opportunity in schools and improve-yourself-time a-la college on active duty. MARSOC is basically the new kid on the block. Special Forces needed more men, so instead of reducing the standards, top brass decided to open a SOF in the Marines to tap into any potential recruits. Which is better? Army, clearly.

Superjohn

how many testicles do you have? wow, someone trolled this with multiple accounts

mahmahmahmahmah

Um well ish

i think so but i stilll respect and appreciate what they do

God's gift to Middle Earth

They both get the same exact infantry training. Even both of the Infantry Rifle Platoon And Squad handbooks have the exact same table of contents. The only real difference is "We train as we fight, and fight as we train." and the Marines "Sweat more in training, bleed less in combat." They're different sayings, but both mean the exact same thing....that we train hard and we fight hard.

Jason

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