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Separation of Church and State? Not for Islam?

  • The ACLU is ready to attack any Public Christian activity, where are they at times like this? Carver Elementary - San Diego Public School Bows To Sharia June 12, 2007 - San Francisco, CA - PipeLineNews.org - Those having doubts that New York Department of Education's proposed Arabic school - Khalil Gibran International Academy - will inevitably turn into a madrassah should consider how a similar experiment in the San Diego Unified School District is turning out. In September Carver Elementary school [kindergarten - eighth grade] accepted nearly 100 students from a failed charter school which served a Somali Muslim constituency. The school population now numbers approximately 400. Though these kids are now being educated within the wall of Carver, they have not been incorporated into the main student population and operate as a school-within-a-school, segregated elite with special privileges. The controversy became a matter of public record when a substitute teacher Mary-Frances Stevens made a report to the local school board in which she claimed that Carver's Muslim children were being led in Islamic prayer by a teacher's aide. Steven's, who subbed at the school on March 8 stated that the lesson plan she was given included the allotting of one hour for prayer. The teacher's allegation of religious indoctrination led to an investigation. In true multicultural fashion, the school has gone to extreme lengths to accommodate its new students; the curriculum features the teaching of Arabic - the language of the Quran - single gender classes for girls as well as organized prayer...for Muslims only. A new dhimi class schedule - expressly designed to kow tow to Carver's new students - was instituted. It created an extra 15 minute recess period as part of an hour set aside so that Carver's Muslims can pray en-masse while in class. Additionally, the school cafeteria menu no longer serves pork or other foods which conflict with fundamentalist Muslim diet restrictions [halal]. Even Carver's "winter holiday" celebration has not escaped the wrath of this brand of extreme multiculturalism, ripping the heart out of what was formerly the Christmas holiday by injecting extraneous cultural artifacts; as the San Diego Union Tribune notes: "The school's winter holiday celebration featuring multicultural performances was a big hit. African-American, American, Muslim and other traditions were celebrated. "Carver has always been sensitive to the different cultures and always looked at the variety of cultures we have as an enrichment, not a problem," teacher Pamela de Meules said." [source "District wants to provide options," by Helen Gao http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/education/20070412-9999-1m12carver.html%5D Confronted by an apparent double standard which elevates Muslims over Christian and Jewish students, school principal Kimberlee Kidd attempted to explain, "I think there are so many misconceptions." The actions taken by Carver's officials have made them agents whereby Sharia [Muslim religious law] has been extended into a region of the public domain where heretofore an ACLU interpretation of church-state separation has prevailed. On that note, the local ACLU is still "considering" its options in this matter…don't hold your breath. The unequal treatment on display at Carver is manifest, especially when seen in the light of how requests by Christians who have petitioned to have their prayer needs accommodated are routinely denied by public school officials. It goes without saying that public school cafeteria menus have seldom if ever been modified to accommodate the religious needs of Orthodox Jews who also must not eat pork.

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    this is what i believe in with my whole heart. When any immigrants who come in to this country legal way they should keep their ideas of what ever they beliefs are to themselves. it seems that they have forgotten that they came to this country, they are the ones who have to follow our rules and laws. the best thing about this country of us is that every one can practice their religion with total freedom, no one will ever tell them that they can not do that. how ever knowing this freedom does not give them any rights to force their religion and believes on to the rest of us. they have come here for any reasons that they had, but it seems that they are using the freedom act that we, our Fathers have fight for us in order to have these freedoms. They are using this freedom act against us, in order to push their agendas down to our trouts. Now if any of us go to their country's none of us will be allowed to practice our religions in open, we will be rested put in jails and God knows what else. There fore they must follow our rules, our laws not the other way around. hey they came to this country, we did not went to their country's. so it is best for them to keep their believes and ideas to themselves and practice what ever they practice in their own homes only and i am positive that ACLU is having a ball, and using and miss using all of these ca motions to push their agendas, for their own selfish reasons. and we are allowing these things to continue, every Christmas we go through all these nonsense stuff. this is Christan country and whom ever does not like it, well no one has force them to stay, they all can go back.

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The Liberal Public School System and California to boot, it does not surprise me. I am surprised that we haven't heard more about this from states like Mass and Vermont. Maybe all the Muslims in the US can move to California? Because as the Principal said, they are sensitive and like to accomodate everyones needs. Unless you are Jewish or a Christian, of course.

Princess of the Realm

Here's my favorite ACLU bit.. They fought to allow mosques to blast the surrounding neighborhoods with Islamic prayers via loudspeakers. But a Christian prayer in a school they're 100% opposed to.

How_Would_I_Know

Of course if it is Anti-Christian ACLU is all over it as far as protection. Anything Christian they want wash out of society.

kveryeffective

Ridiculous. However, now you know how the rest of us have felt with things like the 10 Commandments being in that AL courthouse--remember it when you have your chance to shove your beliefs down our throats again. The ACLU is a bunch of radical freaks, they do not represent thinking people. I say pull Christ out of schools, but dont replace him with Islam, religion has no place in the curriculum. If the parents are doing their job, the children will happily pray on their own time during school-Ive seen them do it. Not fair:::: I dont like your "Christian country" Where do you want me to go? Im Scottish, Kiowa, Irish, Cherokee, Canadian, Jewish. I assure you that I can trace my family here longer than yours. More important than being Christian, the US was founded as a nation that could change with her people-why not let her change into one that allows you as a Christian, me as an atheist, and anyone else to coexist? :) I'll stand beside you to get rid of the ACLU, theyre hurting, not helping. But you have to realize that it comes from all sides, not just them, dont mistake my fighting beside you as fighting for you because I dont want Christianity forced upon me anymore than I want Islam or than you want Islam or atheism. Remember, my people could be a majority one day too.

Showtunes

ACLU was founded by a self-described Communist. It is still a Communist front organization and has little to do with protecting Civil Liberty in America and much more to do with the destruction of Capitalist America.

aviator147

these school officials know that if they don't recognize the Muslim religion and bow down to it they will have hell to pay , to the hell with Christans , they are so weak and cowardly they don't deserve representing, and their god is not very alive at least they don't think so, so what are you complaining about? The Muslims will stand up when the so called Christans, just roll over and play dead.

verda hb

Us Christians have some work to do.

birdman

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