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What is the collaboration of physical and health education?

Americans have nothing against public education, so why the fuss over public health care?...?

  • ...If education was provided by the private sector exclusively, we would have the same or worse situation as we're currently experiencing with health care. We're entitled to a good education just as we're all entitled to being able to obtain proper health care. These are two sectors which cannot be driven purely by profit. What do you think?

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    Of course, our public education system is in need of a major overhaul as well. High school graduation rates, while on the rise, are still embarrassing in an age when a college degree may not suffice to compete as a knowledge worker. 69.2% of high school students graduated in 2006. That means 3 out of 10 students failed to graduate from high school. New Jersey led the nation with an 82.1% graduation rate. Nevada posted a dismal 47.3% graduation rate. I think some of the confusion is over our statistics. It also depends whether we choose to take a selfish view from the perspective of our own individual families, or if we are designated (typically be election) to wear the "national hat" and assume responsibility for decisions that will hopefully benefit the collective population that makes up our nation. Take an employee of a major corporation or university. There are many such individuals, from mailroom clerks to CEOs. Most of these folks have the option to receive outstanding health care. Obviously, health care varies depending upon where one lives. If one is a worker in a plant in the middle of nowhere, health providers may not be as competitive as in some major cities. But, the health insurance plans available for the choosing are usually pretty good. Now, ask such a person, who is probably facing his or her own economic challenges, whether (s)he wants to pay more in taxes for national health care. The first reaction will be that national health care will probably be a step down in quality from what (s)he currently receives. Moreover, (s)he will need to pay for national health care through higher taxes. And, it is possible that the premium health care they receive today will go up in price. If this individual is altruistic and concerned about the welfare of his or her fellow citizens and resident aliens, then (s)he will support national health care. If the individual is only concerned about his or her own pocketbook, then (s)he would be foolish to support national health care...unless one expects nationalization to drive down experience costs. Now, ask a person who is unemployed and who has fallen off COBRA; or, ask a person who never had health insurance in the first place. There are millions upon millions of such people. They obviously take a very different view. Trust me, they love their children as much as corporate employees do. If we look at the quality of health care in, say NYC, as delivered to those eligible for excellent health insurance plans, I would argue that it is second to none in the world. But, go into a different neighborhood in NYC where people are unemployed or where their small business employer cannot affort decent health care for his/her employees, and you have a totally different picture. I believe that the American citizen should be looking out first and foremost for him/herself. I believe that many American citizens are altruistic in nature and believe in providing at least a minimum health care safety net for all Americans. Those entrusted to lead us in government need to set aside their individual interests and make decisions on behalf of their electorates and the nation as a whole. These leaders are not looking at the corporate employee's health plan in NYC. They are looking at the average health care provided nationally and by state. In my opinion, the nation in which I choose to live should offer all of its citizens and legal resident aliens a calculated "minimum" of health care. No one should be left unprotected in our great nation. There is no need to get religious here. And, let's not confuse basic humanitarian, ethical and moral behavior with "communism", for those of us who still live in the McCarthy Era. But, there is no way that this average health care will approximate the quality of health care that the NYC corporate employee is able to afford. (S)he undoubtedly will continue to pay a premium for his/her plan. This is similar to public education, as you point out. The nation and the states need to manage standards and averages so that all citizens and legal resident aliens have the ability to receive a minimum level of public education. Individual communities and families have the option to raise the bar considerably. People, in turn, have the ability to choose where they will live, based on public education and health care service quality. As soon as someone enlists the R-word or the D-word and politicizes this issue, all reason seems to fall by the wayside and we rapidly argue ourselves into a futile standoff. I hope our elected officials rise above petty politics and act with the nation's interest at heart. Sadly, I fear most of our leaders are not up to the task.

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if the public health care turns out as bad as the public school system WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE

Harley Drive

I have quite a bit against public education. They don't teach how to think critically, they are funded via extortion, it wastes kids' time (the average level of education they receive by the time they graduate highschool could be achieved in a few years not 12), people learn differently yet the method of instruction has not changed since the 19th century, private schools are by any account superior, not every kid has the aptitude for formal schooling, the average public school teacher is dumber than the average student, the incentive structure is skewed so that complete failures (including abusers and molesters) can maintain employment as teachers, it costs way too much for such a pathetic result, teachers teach to pass tests rather than to understand concepts. I could go on and on.

chin

Who is to saying that we don't have a problem with public education? Because I certainly do. Yes they can be driven purley by the profit motive.

No religion in this pub ™

Look up the dropout rate and our scholastic standing in the world. Then look at the cost per student public as opposed to private. Then the grade averages. The education system is broken. You really need to look up the facts on government health care and education.

Michael D

The public school system that we have sucks!! Just like this new health care plan! You need to come back to reality..

giannas42

If there is no profit, then where is the motivation to work? For example: Have you ever waited in line at the drivers license office? Those government workers do NOT get in a hurry to help you until they lock the doors at quitting time, then finish everyone who is in line at that point very quickly. Have you noticed that? Up until quitting time, they don't put out much effort. There is no reason to. They are not payed more if they help more people that day, so why hurry? They are not competing against other drivers license stations for throughput bonuses or anything, so why hurry? They know it's a government job, and it's next to impossible to get fired, so why hurry? Now ask yourself something. Do you want your health care workers acting that way when you are sick or injured? When hospitals compete, you win! Isn't it better if they are trying to provide higher quality, more efficient service in order to earn your business so that they can keep their jobs and put food on their own tables? Yes ! As long as there is extra money to be made, people will work harder for it. If the government is running our health care, things WILL be more like the drivers license station. No competition, no going the extra mile for patients. The government will decide how much to spend on you, and one day, they may decide YOU are not worth it.

aspiring codger

A considerable percentage of the voters see the government as having destroyed public education with all its programs and propaganda and other wrong-headed ideas. In fact, the nation was built by people educated in schools before universal, compulsary education existed, and many of those later were home-schooled (prairies and frontiers being what they are). And they were taught the language and the history, not philosophy nor to 'feel good about yourself.' Thus, as the government's department of education has hastened rather than halted the decline in our schools, we really do expect the same from any government medical care department.

cambay

If education is not purely profit driven and is results driven, then why are we sinking such astronomical sums into the public education system for mediocre or poor results while private and charter schools are churning out well educated, well adjusted, and superior students? The public schools are run and ruled bu the NEA union. It does not matter how bad a teacher is. Once they get hired and join the union, it is almost impossible to fire them because of union rules. So bad teachers are getting tenure, raises, and huge retirement packages based on the failure to properly perform their job. That is the public school system in a nutshell. You and I are not entitled to ANYTHING under the constitution but the freedoms we are given by it. The gov is SUPPOSED to do whatever it takes to guarantee and protect those freedoms for all - not mandate what we buy, where we go to school, what light bulb we buy, or where and when we spend our money. The gov mandate that ALL must buy insurance is robbing consumer choice from the American people. If the gov was so concerned about everyone being insured, they would allow insurance to be bought across state lines and give everyone the opportunity to find the best policy at the most affordable price instead of reinventing the wheel with Obamacare! If most of us have a flat tire, we do not drive to the local Ferrari dealership and buy an exotic, Italian, sports car but that is exactly what this gov is doing with every single piece of liberal/socialist/comprehensive legislation they pass. Robbing Peter to pay Paul! You do not fix a flat by replacing the entire automobile with a new one that costs 50 times more than the one you had. But that is the Obama administration and lib controlled Congress for you. Never met a multi trillion dollar, gov expanding, earmark bill they did not like or a repub alternative that spends a fraction of their bill, gets better scoring from the CBO, and pertains only to the issue at hand instead of including earmarks and amendments that they did like.

cadcommando2003

You know, there is an adage - 'health is wealth'. As that is the position, there is no further elaboration about it. But, education has become a business now, which a common man cannot afford to. So also, will be the same position with health also in coming days. This type of business mindedness is required to be plucked at root level and then only any further development is possible.

Sreeraman

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