What do you think of this shooting on Virginia Tech today ?
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BLACKSBURG, Va. - A gunman opened fire in a Virginia Tech dorm and then, two hours later, shot up a classroom across campus Monday, killing 32 people in the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history. The gunman committed suicide, bringing the death toll to 33. ADVERTISEMENT Students complained that there were no public-address announcements or other warnings on campus after the first burst of gunfire. They said the first word they received from the university was an e-mail more than two hours into the rampage — around the time the gunman struck again. Virginia Tech President Charles Steger said authorities believed that the shooting at the dorm was a domestic dispute and mistakenly thought the gunman had fled the campus. "We had no reason to suspect any other incident was going to occur," he said. He defended the university's handling of the tragedy, saying: "We can only make decisions based on the information you had on the time. You don't have hours to reflect on it." Investigators offered no motive for the attack. The gunman's name was not immediately released, and it was not known if he was a student. The shootings spread panic and confusion on campus. Witnesses reporting students jumping out the windows of a classroom building to escape the gunfire. SWAT team members with helmets, flak jackets and assault rifles swarmed over the campus. Students and faculty members carried out some of the wounded themselves, without waiting for ambulances to arrive. The massacre took place at opposite sides of the 2,600-acre campus, beginning at about 7:15 a.m. at West Ambler Johnston, a coed dormitory that houses 895 people, and continuing at least two hours later at Norris Hall, an engineering building about a half-mile away, authorities said. Two people were killed in a dormitory room, and 31 others were killed in the engineering building, including the gunman, police said. "Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," Steger said. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified." Steger said the university decided to rely on e-mail and other electronic means of notifying members of the university, but with 11,000 people driving onto campus first thing in the morning, it was difficult to get the word out. He said that before the e-mail went out, the university began telephoning resident advisers in the dorms to notify them and sent people to knock on doors to spread the word. Virginia Tech Police Chief Wendell Flinchum would not say how many weapons the gunman carried. But a law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation was incomplete, said that the gunman had two pistols and multiple clips of ammunition. Police said they were still investigating the shooting at the dorm when they got word of gunfire at the classroom building. Some students bitterly questioned why the gunman was able to strike a second time. "What happened today this was ridiculous," student Jason Piatt told CNN. "While they send out that e-mail, 20 more people got killed." Students and Laura Wedin, a student programs manager at Virginia Tech, said the first notification they got of the shootings came in an e-mail at 9:26 a.m., more than two hours after the first shooting. The e-mail had few details. It said: "A shooting incident occurred at West Amber Johnston earlier this morning. Police are on the scene and are investigating." The message warned students to be cautious and contact police about anything suspicious. Student Maurice Hiller said he went to a 9 a.m. class two buildings away from the engineering building, and no warnings were coming over the outdoor public address system on campus at the time. Everett Good, junior, said of the lack of warning: "I'm trying to figure that out. Someone's head is definitely going to roll over that." "We were kept in the dark a lot about exactly what was going on," said Andrew Capers Thompson, a 22-year-old graduate student from Walhalla, S.C. At least 26 people were being treated at three area hospitals for gunshot wounds and other injuries, authorities said. Their exact conditions were not disclosed, but at least one was sent to a trauma center and six were in surgery, authorities said. Up until Monday, the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was in Killeen, Texas, in 1991, when George Hennard plowed his pickup truck into a Luby's Cafeteria and shot 23 people to death, then himself. The massacre Monday took place almost eight years to the day after the Columbine High bloodbath near Littleton, Colo. On April 20, 1999, two teenagers killed 12 fellow students and a teacher before taking their own lives. Previously, the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history was a rampage that took place in 1966 at the University of Texas at Austin, where Charles Whitman climbed the clock tower and opened fire with a rifle from the 28th-floor observation deck. He killed 16 people before he was shot to death by police. Founded in 1872, Virginia Tech is nestled in the Blue Ridge Mountains of southwestern Virginia, about 160 miles west of Richmond. With more than 25,000 full-time students, it has the state's largest full-time student population. The school is best known for its engineering school and its powerhouse Hokies football team. The rampage took place on a brisk spring day, with snow flurries swirling around the campus. The campus is centered around the Drill Field, a grassy field where military cadets — who now represent a fraction of the student body — once practiced. The dorm and the classroom building are on opposites sides of the Drill Field. A gasp could be heard at a campus news conference early in the day when the police chief announced that at least 20 people had been killed. Previously, only one person was thought to have been killed. A White House spokesman said President Bush was horrified by the rampage and offered his prayers to the victims and the people of Virginia. "The president believes that there is a right for people to bear arms, but that all laws must be followed," spokeswoman Dana Perino said After the shootings, all entrances to the campus were closed, and classes were canceled through Tuesday. The university set up a meeting place for families to reunite with their children. It also made counselors available and planned an assembly for Tuesday at the basketball arena. After the shooting began, students were told to stay inside away from the windows. Aimee Kanode, a freshman from Martinsville, said the shooting happened on the fourth floor of West Ambler Johnston dormitory, one floor above her room. Kanode's resident assistant knocked on her door about 8 a.m. to notify students to stay put. Police said there had been bomb threats on campus over the past two weeks by authorities but said they have not determined a link to the shootings. It was second time in less than a year that the campus was closed because of a shooting. Last August, the opening day of classes was canceled and the campus closed when an escaped jail inmate allegedly killed a hospital guard off campus and fled to the Tech area. A sheriff's deputy involved in the manhunt was killed on a trail just off campus. The accused gunman, William Morva, faces capital murder charges.
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Above and beyond the fact that the VT authorities SAW this coming, they HELPED it by creating a weapon's free, no self-defense zone by denying the law-abiding faculty and students their right to armed self defense on campus. If ONE of the faculty or students had been armed, as is their right under U.S. and state law, not nearly as many may not have died! I hope that the survivors and families of any of the victims that had VA state Concealed Weapons Permits SUE the VT administration and VA State for wrongful death of the victims
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It's sad that so many innocent died for no reason. Hopefully someone will wake up and start doing something about school shootings. First Colombine, then the Omish school now this... what has our world come to??
Ryan8228
I think it was a tragedy first and foremost and my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families. They were just sitting ducks with no way to defend themselves much like the victims of Colin Ferguson. Concealed-carry advocates warned us all long ago to expect tragedies like this as long as we have gun control. When only criminals have guns the rest of us can only ponder tactics like "notifications." In a state where concealed-carry is allowed or promoted, the loss of life could have been much less. He may have shot one or two, but a concealed-carrier would have dispatched him right quick. Sadly there is no way to prevent a killer with a gun. In tribal Africa where there are no manufactured guns, tribesman make them from pipes and rubber-bands so clearly gun control is not the answer. You can make a gun out of wood in an hour! He could have stabbed just as many with a knife. Since you will never stop the OFFENSE, we must allow ourselves a DEFENSE. We are not all of one culture anymore, so violence will only increase. The only way to prevent these killing rampages is concealed-carry. Would you rather protect yourself or wait for the folly "notification?”
patriot333
It's very sad and it makes me so grateful that not only is it very secure and safe here, but it makes me realize how short life is. :-( It's very very sad, I don't like to think about it. To think about how those parents, siblings, friends of the deceased feel. 32 families are suffering and even more friends. It's so sad!
Julia
let idiots have guns and someone will get hurt its time the Americans changed that law saying every man has a right to bear arms then the idiots wont be able to get the so easily
old_rocker2001
poeple already asked this question like a hundred times...it is shocking and sad
angelus
This whole incident saddens and disturbs me. I don't think I've felt this way since Columbine. =(
PinkBlazers
Hopefully all public and private schools will learn some important lessons from this killing spree. They need to not believe that the killer left campus and therefore allow students to stay on campus. As long as they do not know with certainty where the killer is they have to evacuate the school campus in an orderly fashion building by building with police supervision. Emails were used to notify students as a warning but they could also use local radio stations and other media to post bulletins for students to not come to school. We will know in the next few days if the school administration and the Police heads dropped the ball here as it seem like they did so far and see whatever else could be done better in this situation. We cannot always prevent some determined killer to not strike but common sense preventive measures have to be taken once a danger is known.
Ernesto
for the real question i wonder how many lifes could have been saved if the school would have allowed the students to cary consealed wepons
mobile auto repair (mr fix it)
I was thoroughtly convinced that VT and it's small police force did everything properly and could not have done anything differently. The monday morning quarterbacks are out in full force saying they should have done this they could have done that. BS! I also listen to Colin Cowherd on espnradio.com and he confirmed what i felt. Remember: this is a free society and not a lock down communist regime. One of the many draw backs to having a free society as people can roam around as they please. They can also carry guns. And this stuff is going to continue to happen. We have slowly but surely chipped away at the freedoms that we all once enjoyed by passing new laws every single time something like this happens. Look what happened after 9/11. We now have the airport gastapo which is a complete waste of time, an absolute joke and strips us of the luxury of being treated like "free people" whenever we go to the airport. And i hope that doesn't happen here. Let me be controversial here: Only 3800 people or so died in the 9/11 attack. 400,000 people die every year from smoking. I like the odds of not being killed by a terrorist. And yet we've all panicked and now have "Homeland Security" The US is turning into a police state people!
Donny C
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