How tough is it to get into an out of state university as a transfer student?
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So currently I know of this kid who really wants to leave the state he is in right now. He can't go out of state right out of high school, though he has made it into three out of state universities, each will cost him about 30k per year. Currently he is a 4.0 GPA student, Biology major at a tier 4 public university in his state (Georgia). Currently a freshman about to be a sophomore. His plan is to get the core classes out of the way first and then for his final two years go to an out of state university and then go to a good grad program. I just want to know, how tough is it to get into an out of state university as a transfer student? Here are the universities he wants to try and transfer into: UNC Chapel Hill University of Maryland at College Park University of Connecticut University of Washington and James Madison University
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If he maintains that 4.0 GPA I am certain he will get into all of those universities or at least be competitive for them. As for out of state, it really just depends on grades and what you mean by out of state. With that GPA he will easily be able to get into the University of Colorado at Boulder or the University of Vermont, even get some generous scholarships for them. If we are talking the UCs (UCLA or UC Berkeley) then I will say his chances may just rely on pure luck. I was recently admitted as a transfer student into Columbia University (great recommendation letters and tons of work on application), Washington University in St Louis, Cornell, Penn, University of Connecticut, Georgia Tech, Boston University, University of Washington-Seattle and the University of Rochester. I was waitlisted for Georgetown (odd). Wasn't denied from any but would have been had I applied to Yale and MIT. I say you should tell him to get busy, do insane amounts of volunteer work at a place he likes, make sure he joins some clubs if he hasn't already and if he has then make sure he stays an active member in those clubs and hopefully earn a position. If he needs to retake the SAT then make him retake it, a 1950 or above is an ideal score. As for everything else, tell him to find things to do during the summer so his resume looks that much more flashy. About seven students from my university managed to transfer to some great schools. A close friend of mines had a 3.8 GPA as a Business major and he has been accepted into the University of Virginia, a girl in my class who is an engineering major has managed to get accepted into RPI and Georgia Tech, and one other kid was accepted into Duke as a transfer student. All of those kids were B students in high school and made high GPAs in college, the rest were A students who attended this university for financial purposes. Definitely possible and most likely probable depending on his goals.
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with good grades it's not very hard at all... it's easier to transfer than to make it in straight out of high school because you've already shown your university aptitude
Alex
It has nothing to do with going out of state. It is what your GPA is and what classes you have taken. If you know what four year college you want to attend, then you can call and make sure any class taken at the CC will transfer before signing up for it. They can tell you which credits they will accept from your CC. go on line to these college and read requirements and how and when to apply as a transfer student.
drip
It's not tough to transfer if you have good grades, but the cost is something he will have to deal with. Unless he gets waivers for out-of-state tuition, scholarships, or grants, he's going to have to pay out-of-state costs. I transferred from a college in Illinois to one in Wisconsin without much trouble. I was given a tuition waiver due to a solid GPA, so that helped cut the cost of out of state attendance. He can transfer, but he should make sure to talk to the financial aid departments at the new universities first. That way he will know exactly what to expect before he commits to moving and transferring.
Vbonics
If you have the grades then it is not that difficult to transfer. The only problem that may be encountered is that not all credits transfer or you have to take additional classes. So it is better, in my opinion, to transfer earlier in your academic career than later.
dancing_smurf
The good thing is that you haven't mentioned some of the states with major budget problems, all of which are likely to be cutting back on the number of students they accept, which would make it more difficult for out-of-state AND transfer students. These are all schools which DO take a reasonable number of transfer students, and all take some out-of-state students. The difficult thing is that all of these schools are among the strongest in their states. By calling the current school a "Tier 4" school, it implies that its standards aren't very high. A 4.0 could potentially be meaningless (the student could be outstanding, or he could be below the schools' to which he wants to transfer's standards. Therefore, the challenge for this student will be to demonstrate that he could perform as well at the out-of-state schools as he did at his current school. That may mean participating in national competitions, doing some sort of summer research program at a better school, or getting references from someone known and respected by those at the better schools. Of course, if the student has done something extraordinary (beyond just getting good grades) at his current school, that would help. And I wouldn't be tremendously surprised to see these schools look at the student's SAT scores, not as formally as they would for an incoming freshman, but just to get a sense of whether this person, when coming into college, had the same capabilities as their other students.
neniaf
Here are the stats http://thetransferbook.com/stats/transfer-acceptance-rates/ this is for some of the public universities as well http://thetransferbook.com/stats/highest-transfer-acceptance-rates/ Most rates have not increased or decreased dramatically, last I heard the rate for Penn went from 16 percent to 19 percent. All of those colleges are safeties for him except for UNC Chapel Hill which is a match with a 4.0 GPA. If he wants he can aim higher, maybe the lower level Ivies like Cornell or Penn (both reaches). Overall he needs to have a solid list. Other than that he will be able to get into those schools as a transfer but financial aid will be the main issue, if he can deal with that then he may be set.
Neofelis
It's always easier to get into a "private" (like, apparently, James Madison University)university as long as you can afford the tuition and residence costs. Public (i.e., tax-supported educational institutions that are owned by each State) offer separate cost structures depending on whether or not the student is a legal resident of the state. I am not sure what a "tier 4" school in Georgia is, but I suspect that it is not a highly-regarded institution and it is quite possible that the new school will not agree to "transfer" all of his course credits. He should also re-evaluate whether hiscareerr plans REALLY require graduate school. Graduate school attendance is very much a mixed-bag thing when it comes to getting a good job. High School and Collegegradess, also, have become so inflated that almost everyone has a "4.0" GPA.
joemoser1948
The question is WHY would you want to get out of state?? The reason behind that I think would let us anwer the question better.If he plans to return, it will be pointless. Out of state education is A LOT more expensive. I think your friend should be making better plans on what he wants to study. It is not about being chosen by a University...you chose the university because of what you want to persue... My take on this is= pointless to go out of state unless its soemthing that you can only obtain if there.
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