Is Weise Ente the most dishonest vaccine scientist ever?
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His lies to date: #He's been caught lying about wakefield #He's been caught lying about placebo trials #He's been caught lying about alimunium # He's been caught lying about his relationship with Rhianna And now this. I posted a question yesterday about how the anthrax vaccine isn't properly tested in humans, despite the fact Weise Ente and the like claim that all vaccines undergo placebo controlled trails before being unleashed on the public. Then in an email just now he said: #The anthrax vaccine is quite different. Aside from the fact it is only military, it's not against a normal human pathogen. There's no way to do a placebo controlled trial in humans since we aren't normally infected. It works in animals, which means it almost certainly works in people.# Now just hold it there Mr Ente! Just a few weeks ago when we provided evidence showing the damage certain chemicals like MSG can do in humans and the fact SV40 was in a vaccine and pig virus, he said that what happens in animals does not always happen in humans, but here is claiming the vaccine is safe and effective because it's ok in animals!!! He is the most dishonest, disgusting scientist I have ever come across. Is this the final nail in the coffin for our duck friend?
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He's been caught lying about wakefield #He's been caught lying about placebo trials #He's been caught lying about alimunium [CITATION NEEDED] The immune systems of mammals are pretty highly conserved. What works in one will work in another. This has been shown time and time again. It's not true for every field though. Rodent brains are quite different, making them a poorer model. In every case you have to take into consideration how accurate your animal model is. The animal models for anthrax are very accurate. If you protect a mouse, you can protect a human. This isn't true for everything. For example, the mouse model for Salmonella isn't that great. It doesn't cause the same disease, so if you wanted to make a Salmonella vaccine, mice would be of limited value. They'd still be useful of course. So once again, you take a quote of mine out of context to try to make me look bad. Grow up. And here is why I call aluminum hydroxide alum when used as an adjuvant: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21506650 That's quite simply what everyone calls it.
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Now you're just lying. To summarize: #He's been caught lying about wakefield No, he hasn't. #He's been caught lying about placebo trials No, he hasn't. #He's been caught lying about alimunium(sic) Again, no, he hasn't. You don't understand, no one gets anthrax, so there isn't any data for that. You just can't start injecting people with anthrax. Animal models do have their limitations, and yes, they aren't enough. However, it is, for the most part, very safe. It as a slightly higher rate of adverse reactions than other vaccines, but severe events are still very rare. You're forgetting that this isn't a vaccine that is given to the wider public, it's only US military personnel that have it. You're a complete moron. Edit: Oh, **** off, Awful. And there's nothing wrong with saying "alum". What is your complaint exactly?
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No. You fail.
Nate
No. The flailing, fledgling homopathic scamquacks might contend for that title, but none of them are actual scientists... As for MSG, much like every other thing you whackjobs get your vaginas in a knot over, it's utterly harmless. And I really don't see how Weise Ente's relationship or lack thereof with anyone is the business of anybody on YA! (At this point, you're just taking random swipes in blind hope of finding a "Gotcha!" Quite pathetic.)
Psychobenzaprine
You're right. I've seen him in an argument with Lisa about aluminium (which he still calls alum, lol) and he was dishonest then. Notice how madam dodged this part # He's been caught lying about his relationship with Rhianna. hmmmmm.
awful
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