Did the civil rights movement even help black women?

No, it really didn't. Hell, they even said that their movement was more important than ours! Frederick Douglass said that himself. EDIT: Mike T said it best. Hell, even feminism is self-centered in a way. It used to be a "White Women's Movement", while other women's issues were largely ignored. Thankfully, that has changed.

lol wow you are on to something miss! Yes white women didn't think we should have women's rights...shocking to learn. Thats why I tell other black women to sit down because um........we have rights as women, and womens rights today is a joke.

I thinking so. I meet more professional black women than blacks men. So many black men are in jail as of now and many black women complain. I like Martin Luther King Jr because what he did was great. Also many black women raising so many kids alone with no black man around and they not stigmatized so much instead they are seen as very strong proud women. If you see so many black women like Oprah, Tina Turner, Angelia Davis,Maya Angelou then that says so much without words.

You're right to a great extent -- in my opinion, the women's liberation movement and Feminism never cared about the well-being of African-Americans. Please read the excerpts I give below -- This is the theory I get on the internet. People should consider taking 2 minutes of their time to read the link given below. Particularly those ignorant Feminist kids who do NOT know what they're backing up. Feminism isn't all about 'my body, my choice' or 'Women's Liberation' -- the waters run deeper than that -- there's covert propaganda and other intentions hidden beneath -- Gloria Steinem first came across the radar of Black men in 1978 when Steinem put a book called "Black Macho and the Myth of the Superwoman" on the cover of Ms. Magazine, the magazine which she controlled. The book was "written" by a Black "feminist" and "activist" named Micele Wallace who came out of nowhere. Wallace was in her early twenties at the time, yet she was being touted as the "leader" of Black feminism. In the book, Wallace called abolitionists like Harriet Tubman and Sojouner Truth "ugly" and "stupid" for supporting Black men. She called Black Revolutionaries "chauvinist macho pigs" and advised Black women to "go it alone." Gloria Steinem said that Wallace's book would "define the future of Black relationships" and she pushed hard to make sure the book received massive publicity. Gloria Steinem's work triggered a flood of "Hate Black Men" books and films that continues to this day. Needless to say, some were quite suspicious of Ms. Magazine and Gloria Steinem. Why was Steinem sticking her nose into the affairs of the Black community? So people started doing some research on Steinem. When it came out that Gloria Steinem was probably the ghost writer of the book with Michele Wallace's name on it, Wallace had a nervous breakdown and went into hiding for two years. However, the damage was already done and the "Hate Black Men" movement was off and running. But the research into Gloria Steinem's background continued. What follows is the findings of many different researchers. BOTTOM LINE: [...] The only difference between Black Revolutionaries and Black Feminist on this issue is that the Black Revolutionaries KNOW they were infiltrated and manipulated-- But Black Feminist are still unwilling to admit that they were infiltrated and manipulated, largely because they are highly invested in the hateful brand of Black feminism. As a result, the "Hate Black Men" movement has become MORE THAN just a political point a view: It is now a central part of the CULTURE of Black women and this fact has led to the destruction of the Black Revolution and the complete distortion of Black relationships.

The problem with feminist thinking is that you always have to assume an inferior position without any type of intellectual rationalization. There is some truth to what you are saying, however, you cannot discount that the Civil Rights Movement came from the church. So would religious leaders at that time been marching with homos for gay rights, of course not because people still are limited by their beliefs. However, with more black men in jail than college, black women far ahead academically, high unemployment, black women economically and socially are leaps and bounds ahead of black men. And no feminist stat can refute this. You need a stronger understanding of actual events before you can say an entire movement was a fraud, especially since you're argument is pointing to a few interracial relationships. The CRM benefitted women, black women included, moreso than it has black men, the voice and backbone of the movement. As far as the feminist movement, black women never did fit in the picture. While middle class white women were marching to partake in the workforce, black women have never had the luxury of staying home. Black women have always been the centerpiece of the black family and the breadwinners because black men were just as oppressed as they were. I don't doubt that within the home there are/were sexist attitudes but it certainly didn't come in the form of institutionalized oppression because black men controlled absolutely nothing.

It helped more than the feminist movement I think. Blacks are still oppressed, but I don't think black women are more oppressed than black men. I think it's the other way around. I think it's a very bad idea to try to split the black movement down the center. That's only helping the ones oppressing you by causing a divide in the same oppressed race. You all have to stick together if you ever want things to get better for you, not give in to in-fighting about who has more rights. You know damn well the well-off, middle class white women don't really have black women in mind when they scream for special privileges. I don't see anything wrong with having black women civil rights groups, but don't blame black men for your troubles. No black man every sent you for "seasoning" at a camp where millions died, or sold you at auction. At least most black women don't end up in prison, and bear the brunt of whites rape hysteria. At least you don't stand a good chance of getting murdered or beat or killed by the police. Last time I checked the civil rights movement ended segregation for both black men and women, and affirmative action wasn't just for black men.

It's not true that neither of those movements didn't care bout Black women; both did, on the whole. Yes, there were sexists among civil rights advocates, but they didn't represent everyone else. Ditto women who ignored problems specific to Black women in the women's movement. Everything you've said are gross over-generalizations. No, the civil rights movement was not a freaking fraud.