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  • I was a bit shocked and appalled by another question where posters stated they wouldn't go on a second date with a man if he expected her to pay her share of the date. I was even more shocked that some confessed to not bringing money on a date (how do you not have money when you go out of the house?). That aside, I suppose if a woman in traditional, then this might be expected. But of those who expect a man to pay, how traditional are you? Ladies: If you expect a man to pay for dates (i.e. being traditional minded), do you also expect that the man should be the one to ask for dates? And that later on you will do the majority (if not all) of the cooking, cleaning, and child rearing? Do you feel the man is the head of the household and has the last say? ***I don't mean this as a jab, I'm just wondering if those who responded to the last question were traditional themselves, or if some women are picking and choosing what traditions suit them best. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AucAq5vMJskt1fpOFQdmVebsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20101214185031AAuybEd

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    If he asked, then I expected him to pay unless he made it clear that it was a casual thing and we were each paying. I was also surprised by how many women said that they flat-out wouldn't go on another date if he didn't pay. One woman said it makes him look cheap...don't they realize that it makes them look like users if their basis for deciding to go on a second date is whether or not he paid for the first?? I mean, I'm traditional and all, but sheesh, it's not a deal breaker if the guy goes dutch on the bill. >If you expect a man to pay for dates (i.e. being traditional minded), do you also expect that the man should be the one to ask for dates? That's kinda how it went for us but we weren't all rigid about it. I invited him to things too. >And that later on you will do the majority (if not all) of the cooking, cleaning, and child rearing? I do that, partly because I want to, partly because we both think the kids are better off at home with me than in daycare, and partly because of his disability - he can hardly do anything anymore because his back is just too screwed up. >Do you feel the man is the head of the household and has the last say? I used to. Now that I've been married for 7 years and have some experience, I've come to realize that we are a partnership rather than a hierarchy. We make decisions together; we fix problems together; we raise our kids together. I do try to always make sure not to do some things without his input, like larger purchases or signing up for stuff, because I like us to be on the same page. But it's not like I need his permission. >or if some women are picking and choosing what traditions suit them best. I think it's that. Women like the sweet, romantic traditions, like when a man gets down on his knee to propose or when he is the pursuer in their date life. But other traditions aren't as fun so they get labeled oppressive or obsolete or sexist.

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I think it's so ridiculous how many users on GS want to be treated like children. As I said in the other question, it's a date, not a trip out with your parents. To expect to be treated as an equal, yet also expect to receive (and I never thought I'd say this) 'special privileges' is completely hypocritical. You have to take the good with the bad. You can't call yourself independent and expect a man to pay for everything. Not taking money out is beyond me. It is one thing to hope a man will pay, but to expect it to the point that you buy things with no way of paying for them is baffling.

Sox

Equality means "men pay if men ask" It also means "men ask" Or in other words "men pay". Men pay for dinner because women value the company of a man is less than they value their own company. Men have to ask because women know that there are always men willing to pay for their company. Remember, sex with women is "in demand".

M L

picking and choosing what suits them generally.

User

As a guy, I would pay for the first date. If she didnt pay for the second, I wouldnt ask her out again. I saw "would pay" because I am no longer willing to date. I think its a very disadvantageous position for a guy to put himself in. A date is like a job interview that lasts 3 or 4 hours, with the woman playing the part of the hiring company, and the guy playing the role of the applicant. Sure its possible the guy will end up rejecting the girl, just like its possible a company will extend a job offer after an interview and the applicant will turn it down. But not likely. The crap about "whoever asks should pay" is exactly that. Lets face it, women dont usually have the initiative to ask guys out. Yahoo Answers is filled with women asking, "How can I get him to ask me out?". And once a couple starts to go out regularly, Wouldnt it become a game of trying to get the other person to ask so they have to pay? How stupid. If the woman is interested, she should pay her share. The world is full of absurdity, and women not wanting to pay for their dinner, then calling a guy cheap for not wanting to pay for both his and hers is a great example.

Max

I am surprised that anyone that invites another to a date, without any mention of "going dutch", expects the date to co-pay. If I invite someone to my home for dinner, I don't expect them to bring the dinner unless I indicate that this is a potluck dinner, or something similar. Similarly, were I single and asked a woman for a date, unless I tell her up-front that this would be a split-bill date, I would expect to pay. And yes, were she in turn to ask me, I would assume that she is paying (though I would make a point of asking if she wants to split the costs).

Rowdy MacFarlane

This is a very controversial topic, as it delves into the very foundations that women have been differentiated from men over the many years humans have existed. The ones you are shocked by are farther out, more deviated than the average. They are incredibly stuck up and this is only exacerbated by the media which portrays males to be the powerful, protectors who provide. Being "hot" (an ugly term) makes them think they have the right to be so superficial and further stratifies their shallow, prissy nature. And wow, I didn't realize how shallow some girls were until I read 2 of the girls posts on here. I was almost speechless, but it actually didn't surprise me. Those are the kinds of girls who are so incredibly absent minded, that if they had to think for themselves and not just recall, they'd probably shrivel up and die. Next time I meet one of you, I may just say I'm going to the bathroom and walk out on you. It is a relief that some girls are shocked by these types of girls. I wish there were more rational women like them.

bluuskyy87

You're "shocked" by this? Seriously? You know, it's often, actually, that I go out of the house without cash, or with a small amount of cash in my purse. Carrying cash isn't something I like to do. I carry an ATM card and debit card. I do not write checks, and don't have credit cards. Is that totally shocking, too? I expect that if a man asks me out on a date that he has the intention of paying. If he does not, or expects to split the bill, then this should be communicated BEFORE we go out, so that I am prepared to do my part. It's called COMMON COURTESY and it really isn't that shocking.

It's Ms. Fusion if you're Nasty!

I'm a guy, 23. If a girl will blatantly reject a guy if he asks her to pay for her meal, she is shallow as the space between her ears. Usually I say something along the lines of.. you got this one, i'll get the next one. If she did say she didn't have money, or didn't want to pay for it, I would probably make fun of her in a playful way.. something like, haha what don't you have a job? or something politely offensive that can be said jokingly with a smile. This would depend on where it was, how much it was, etc. Like if it was pizza, i'd probably pay and say something like " next ones on you?" Just things that if she was shallow, she would say something socially awkward in my book, and I would no longer want to see her, else, she'd play with it and I'd put her closer to the cool category in my mind. However, those kind of girls were raised like that and I don't blame them for being not so great people, just as much as I have been raised to be what I am.. I love women.

ChillSound

My bf pays for dinners and sometimes I do. Big effing deal. If they're that cheap....then see ya later...I have standards.

Sarsa Parilla

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