Engineering v science? building an aqueduct vs finding the freezing pt of water...?
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Arne Saknussemm wrote that "Science is more "how do (naturally occurring) things work and why" whereas engineering is "how can I use what scientists have learned to make (man-made) things work." But let's look at the origins of engineering, say the Romans building an aqueduct. They didn't know much about the science of water, maybe, but they used engineering to solve the very practical problem of how to bring fresh water from the mountains to Rome. The way Arne's answer is phrased, it seems that engineering comes after science, whereas it seems to me that often science comes along after engineering. Better engineering can come from more informed science, but you don't need science to have very useful engineering.
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I am afraid that I agree with Arne (wasn't he the lost scientist in Journey to the Center of the Earth, OMG you almost got me on that one, LOL) Your point about the romans is interesting. While scientists at the time did not know much about water, they were able to "engineer" these great aqueducts. But they did use scientists prime tool of mathematics, which was more developed at this time. Good Question
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"You don't need science to have very useful engineering." Hear, hear. Is that why they had all that great engineering in the Middle Ages? Right. Science and engineering go hand in hand. Science needs engineering for its experiments and engineering needs science to supply it with... science. There is no engineering without the scientific method. If you think otherwise, you are probably not an engineer. I happen to be both, scientist and engineer, so I kind of know what I am talking about.
amansscientiae
Have to agree with amansscientiae here...The Romans did have to use science to engineering things like aqueducts. What sort of aqueduct would you have if you didn't know that fluids tend to flow downhill? How confident would you be about water quality if you didn't know that flowing water tends to be cleaner than stagnant water? On the construction side of the matter, quite a bit of trial and error, in addition to observation of effective designs, had to go into getting arch and masonry construction to work effectively. That's all science, and the application of that knowledge is engineering.
John Frum
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