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For those that say "works" are not important, only faith, how do you reconcile these verses from the Bible?

  • My caps for emphasis.... Matthew 7:21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH the will of my Father which is in heaven. Proverbs 24:12 12 If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man ACCORDING TO HIS WORKS? Matthew 5:16 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good WORKS, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. James 2:14-26 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that BY WORKS A MAN IS JUSTIFIED, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. Revelations 20:12-13 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and THE DEAD WERE JUDGED out of those things which were written in the books, ACCORDING TO THEIR WORKS. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO THEIR WORKS. James 1: 22-23 22 But be ye DOERS of the word, and NOT HEARERS ONLY, deceiving your own selves. 23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: Romans 2:13 13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the DOERS of the law shall be justified. I am not denying the need for and importance of faith. The Bible teaches that we should have faith. What I am saying is that according to the BIBLE as clearly pointed out, we need works as we will be judged according to our works. We are justified in our faith by Jesus Christ, but he also judges us according to our works. We need to have good works or we will be judged accordingly as the Bible points out. John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

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    The issue here are people thinking that works mean that you can't have faith or that works deny the grace of Christ. Nobody ever said "we believe in works and works only". BOTH are needed. Acts 26:20 was one I read this morning " that they should repent and turn to God, AND DO WORKS meet for repentance." Beyond the argument of faith vs. works comes the question - why does it bother you if someone does works as well? Are other peoples striving to be more Christlike really offensive to you? Sadly those who are fully comitted and offended at the idea of "works" are generally trying to justify themselves based on faith with works lacking. Why not do both?

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His Boy, Sherman

But what about: Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory. Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. John 3:18, 36 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already .... He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. Acts 16:30-31 Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Romans 1:16-17 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God salvation to every one that believeth.... As it is written, The just shall live by faith. Romans 3:20 By the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight. Romans 3:28 A man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works he hath whereof to glory? Romans 4:13 For the promise ... was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. Romans 5:1 Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 10:9 If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Galatians 2:16 A man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ. Galatians 3:11-12 The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost. ( I can copy and paste too!!!) -atheist

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Works are for rewards in heaven, not to get into heaven. Believers are given rewards for works, at the Bema seat of Christ. Unbelievers are shown that, no matter how many works they did, they still are unbelievers and are sent to hell for not believing in Jesus Christ for salvation. And by the way, Jesus is GOD HIMSELF. That's why Mormonism has a false "jesus" and a false "god". 2 Corinthians 11:4 says there are groups that have "another jesus" that isn't the true Jesus, and no "other jesus" can save anyone.

CJ

To paraphrase an argument Fundies often use against atheists: Those who argue against works are just lazy and they wish to continue on their selfish path.

David Carrington Jr.

Part of the disconnect between Latter-day Saints and other Christian denominations is that the o.c. seem to think that LDS define 'works' as ordinances, church service, etc - The works or actions of faith to a Latter-day Saint are prayer, scripture study, and becoming Christlike - assisting the needy, uplifting the poor and downtrodden, becoming meek, etc. These match up with many o.c. perspectives. Latter-day Saints heed the commandment of Jesus Christ to 'be ye therefor perfect, even as your Father which is in Heaven is perfect' - thru obedience to the laws and principles of the gospel of Jesus Christ. LDS understand that we will inevitably fall short - no matter how hard we try - we cannot, in mortality, become perfect as our Father in Heaven. This is where the great atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ comes into play. As we repent of our sins, Christ's atonement pays the demands of Justice upon our soul - lifting us unto salvation and our eternal reward [which we refer to as exaltation].

strplng warrior mom

I agree completely. Faith without works is dead. Works without faith is a waste of time. You need both faith AND works!

Elder Swordsman11

I do not understand those that think you just have to say, I believe in Christ," then think that such automatically saves them. Didn't Christ say that by your "fruits" you should be known. That sounds like what you do. Not what you say or claim or declare.

Hillboy

your mixing the two faith alone gets us saved works proves our faith to God. our works cna't get us saved, but they keep us reliant on God and prove we have the faith we say we do. We will be judged according to our works, but so will sinners. it's our faith that separates us and gets us saved, Ephesians says it is a gift of God not of works lest any man should boast. God doesn't want us to think we had anypart in it, or pride will consume us. it's by faith alone, by grace alone, by Christ alone that leads to salvation. Even Abraham was proven righteous by his faith, and his works were accounted to him.

JaimeM

I've never understood how it's more important to have faith then to do good and help others I would have thought that if you was seeking to go to heaven then you need to be good and to help others if you have faith but you are not good then why do you deserve heaven?

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