Do you agree if not then why? Creation or Big Bang?
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The Big Bang is the cosmological model of the universe whose primary assertion is that the universe has expanded into its current state from a primordial condition of enormous density and temperature. The term is also used in a narrower sense to describe the fundamental "fireball" that erupted at or close to an initial time-point in the history of our observed spacetime. Theoretical support for the Big Bang comes from mathematical models, called Friedmann models. These models show that a Big Bang is consistent with general relativity and with the cosmological principle, which states that the properties of the universe should be independent of position or orientation. Observational evidence for the Big Bang includes the analysis of the spectrum of light from galaxies, which reveal a shift towards longer wavelengths proportional to each galaxy's distance in a relationship described by Hubble's law. Combined with the evidence that observers located anywhere in the universe make similar observations (the Copernican principle), this suggests that space itself is expanding. The next most important observational evidence was the discovery of cosmic microwave background radiation in 1964. This had been predicted as a relic from when hot ionized plasma of the early universe first cooled sufficiently to form neutral hydrogen and allow space to become transparent to light, and its discovery led to general acceptance among physicists that the Big Bang is the best model for the evolution of the universe. A third important line of evidence is the relative proportion of light elements in the universe, which is a close match to predictions for the formation of light elements in the first minutes of the universe, according to Big Bang nucleosynthesis. According to the Big Bang model, the universe developed from an extremely dense and hot state. Space itself has been subsequently expanding, carrying galaxies (and all other matter) with it. Sounds impressive doesn’t it? Well here is another thought in which I will use the same principals as stated above to show how this Theory is not at all possible. Space as we know it is a vacuume and as far as we can tell it goes on forever. In other words it is endless. Before the universe there was nothing but an empty space in which nothing, not even time existed. If we use Einstien’s formula E=MC^2 we know that we can produce energy from matter. We also know that the oposite is true as matter can be made from energy. That would fall in place with Neuton’s law, that for every action there is an equil and oposit reaction. So we know that we can (provided we have the technology to do it) make matter from energy. Observational evidence shows that everything in the universe has order to it. It is not just some milly pilly random state of galaxies and gasses floating about in the vacuum of space. We may have yet to understand completely everything that is going on but, I believe that is part of what makes learning fun. All the principles underlined above are what we have discovered to help us understand the workings of the universe and not how it started. Here I would like to show how from observation things can continue without having to re-create. If man was created from the dust of the earth, and woman created from a bone of man (That would keep the DNA compatible) then, that is all of the humans that would need to be created because from that pair other humans would come to be. I call this the Law of renewal. once something is created then it never will have to be created again as it will continue to renew. This is the same as the Universe. We don’t fully understand how it works. But, I have an idea that black holes have a lot to do with it. They cause everything around them to compress into the hole, even light can’t excape from it. I figgure at some point the black hole will burst because of the density, and new matter is then created, which will follow all the laws of matter and motion. So just how big is this universe? We don’t know. We are limited even with the Hubble to just how far we can see. Light travels at a speed of 299 792 458 M/s. It could very well be that there are galaxies and matter that we have yet to see because the light from them has yet to reach us. I do belive that to be the case. What causes the universe to expand and contract is driven by the laws of gravity. Since we cannot see the whole of the universe we don’t know just what is out there that causes the motions of the galixies to travel the way they do, and we may really never know. It is from my observation that once put in motion it will continue to re-create. Could it be that something or someone created the universe and set it in motion? We can see the perfect order of this solar system. As we learn more about it the more perfect it becomes. We know a lot about the sun. But we don’t really understand it completely. I don’t think it will ever burn out or become a super nova as some would have you believe. It will continue on endefintly. So as with the universe, the earth is in like manner. Everything on this planet re-news. From the land mass, oceans, plants, and all living creatures. This process of renewing continues and will continue to time indefinate. So if we observe the earth and everything upon it we can also apply what we learn to the universe as everything is connected and follows the same rules and laws. Another point of logic, If you put everything needed into a box to build a house, how many times would you have to dump out the box to get a perfectly built house? The chances are 0 to infinity. It takes inteligents to put everything together does it not? So as with the house, so to this planet, solar system, galaxy, and universe. So is the theory of the big bang true. No! so that just leaves one other thought, and that is, creation. It can be the only choice left to explan the universe, our planet, and life. It makes more sense then all the theories put together. So what created it? What ever or who ever it is, is what we call God.
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Why can't it be both?Or neither?These possibilities hurt the heads of the narrow minded.
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Here's the fundamental flaw in your reasoning: "So is the theory of the big bang true. No! so that just leaves one other thought, and that is, creation." The human brain can, and almost certainly will construct hundreds of other possible explanations for the universe around us. The Big Bang and creation by the diety of a primitive Hebrew tribe are merely how the game's being defined at the moment.
Jack P
woh easy lad, too much and too deep, im at work you know.
flikapotamus
That's some question. Have you ever considered that God created the big bang?
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You've set up a very long winded false dichotomy. For example, there's no essential reason why somebody couldn't believe in a created big bang, or in something else entirely different. Why allow a meagre two options? That means your premises are vacant. And then you play around with probability, and pretend an apparently low probability might as well equate with 0. On the other side of the equation, you haven't attempted to rate the probability of you own personal favourite, and claimed a non-exsistent victory on the grounds of default. <<Another point of logic, If you put everything needed into a box to build a house, how many times would you have to dump out the box to get a perfectly built house? The chances are 0 to infinity.>> Another point of logic. The final sentence is meaningless babble. A probability of 0 to infinity is a phrase devoid of meaning. Have you calculated the probabilities of your pet faith position being correct yet? After all, there are many other faiths and interpretations on the planet, so we'd presumably have to start with odds of 6 billion to one against your particular view being correct. And then we can add in many billions more for the views of the decased. And then there are the incredible odds invovled in the possibility of precisely you having been born. After all, if your great-great grandmother hadn't got lost on that evening, and taken refuge in the deserted shed and... You see, the probabilities involved in the precise ancestry leading up to your conception are incredibly remote. Clearly, given the enormous odds stacked against your view being the correct one, as well as those involved with your birth, we might as well assume you're both wrong and non-existent.
KTDykes
Could God be our emotional punching pad? A hypothesis, to fall back upon, whenever, we fall short of logical, rational explanations, which the human mind "can" comprehend, with its human yard-sticks and resources? But, the logic and rationality of the Universe, is "far beyond" the limited & finite, "comprehension-capacity of the human mind," pertaining to the human species, alone! Apart from unknown galaxies, there may even be "special unknown species" existing in the limitless universe (including also in the known portion of the universe) which are beyond the human sensory perceptions and human mind! Aliens may be seated amidst you and me, guiding our very thought processes, unknown to our limited sensory and mental, powers of perception!
Sam
Why couln't this supreme inteligence (God) have created the universe in the manner you describe?
Red
The things you stated are at least somewhat convincing, but not valid evidence. Near the end, you said something about intelligence needed to build a house, which I do agree. You continued by saying that it did require some intelligence to build the galaxies and so on, so that is where a "Creator" is needed. I would hate to say this, but if we had a "super creator" who created everything, who created that creator and we can continue to infinity. By the way, the sun will not continue forever and will die some time.
kenneth y
yo it look me a lot of time to read and get this, ok tho.
beebee
Did you intentionally leave out the fact the Primordial Atom theory was proposed and championed by a Catholic Priest. All Big Bang does is explain how the process of creation seems to have occurred on both a Newtonian and Small Particle physics level. It does not negate a Creationist process, that can be likened to Oppenheimer and the A-Bomb. Nor can we escape the fact that, taken time dialation (relatavistic frames) into account, Genesis documents, in simplified terms, the exact process and did this over 3,000 years ago documented archaologically. If you recall photons were created in day one and the Earth and Sun on day 4 and large beasts on day 5 and man at the end of day 6. Dr. Carl Sagan proposed a 30 day month in which man first arrived on the first moment of the last day of the first month and we are still in that first hour. So physicists can establish a 14 billion year time frame with the Earth and Sun at 4.5 billion (that's 2/3 same as day 4) and, of course, things are slowing, we don't travel at the speeds of Quasars we travel at far lower speeds so time speeds up according to Einstein. Billions eventually become millions as time frames slow down.
Earl D
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