How do you win an unemployment appeal in California?

Have some doubts about Unemployment benefits in California while having 1099 income?

  • I have a big dilemma here in regards to unemployment benefits and 1099s. I hope to find the answer and be able to sleep. I was laid off from my engineering office (W2 employee) in October 2010 and I've been collecting unemployment benefits since December 2010. I've been doing some little engineering work on the side, and have been collecting 1099s since 2005 to bump my income. I've paid my taxes accordingly ever since. Now, I want to understand if I'm in big trouble or not. The little work I used to do on the side is nowhere near to what my paycheck was, or even the monthly income from Unemployment. Still, you could say I'm still having little engineering requests here and there. Will I get in trouble at the end of the year for receiving a 1099 then? I'm actively looking for a job, but don't understand why I shouldn't be able to collect my rightful unemployment benefits if my 1099 income is not enough or comparable to the unemployment benefit itself or my previous engineering income within my old company. Hypothetically, if I were to find a job before the end of the year and stop collecting unemployment because of that, would I get in trouble because of the 1099s? I appreciate any comments, please don't be harsh. It's been tough out here.

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    You are not penalized for working. You are perversely reward for not being able to find work. The 1099 is not the issue. The issues are working and getting paid. If the work is part-time, and you properly report it, and you remain available to do other work, then EDD cannot take away more than 75% of what you make on the project; it is against the law. If you make $0-$25 in a week, they cannot take away any of your benefits; it is against the law for them to deduct even one penny. If you make $25-$100, then they take away $25 less than what you made (for example, if you made $65, then then would deduct $40). If you make $100-$600, then they take away 3/4 of what you made. You cannot lose the check completely unless you make at least $600 in a single week, or you fail to report it, or you work full time, or you are no longer available for other work. However, if you do not report the work (and the money you get paid) to EDD, then you are not allowed to claim any unemployment benefits for the week when you did the work. If you do, you may be sent to prison, but are more likely to be forced to pay money and/or to lose your future benefits, perhaps for as long as several years. There is a cap on what you can make without losing any unemployment benefits: $25 per week. You are not penalized. You get more total money, not less. If the project is $1000, and no more than $600 in any one week, and you properly report everything to EDD, then you get $1050 in unemployment plus $1000 for the project, which is a total of $2050. That is $250 more than if you did not take the project and just got the $1800 in unemployment. (Actually, you will spend roughly $250 more on taxes, so it is really just break-even, but it is definitely not a penalty.) On the other hand, if you do not report it to EDD, and they learn of it on their own, then you could lose well over $10,000, due to being denied future benefits for "fraud disqualification", plus whatever you pay a lawyer to try to keep you out of prison.

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Yes, you could be in BIG trouble. The payers on a 1099-Misc are required to report the income to the state. Even if they don't, your tax return will also show the income. By law, when you file your unemployment claim, you are to report all hours worked and any income earned, even if you hadn't been paid yet. Unemployment is a priviledge not a right. If you work and have income, the state has a formula to reduce the amount of benefits paid. Even if you disagree with that formula, you have to abide by it. If you think you will just omit it and if questioned claim the income was before or after you were on unemployment, you can expect a big surprise when they contact the payer and ask HIM to vouch under oath exactly when you did the work. You'd be found guilty of unemployment fraud, have to pay the excess back and may be barred from collecting unemployment in the furture. Plus, if you pay the money back in 2012 and it's less than $3000, you would pay taxes on money you didn't get to keep. From EDD website: Fraud: When you knowingly give false information or withhold information and receive benefits that you should not have received. Withholding or giving false information to obtain unemployment insurance benefits is a serious offense that can result in criminal prosecution. With a fraud overpayment, you are assessed a penalty in the amount of 30 percent of the amount of the overpayment and a false statement disqualification of 5 to 23 weeks. Fraud overpayments and penalties must be repaid. If you do not repay your overpayment promptly, EDD will deduct the money owed from your future weekly unemployment or state insurance benefits. This process is referred to as an offset. EDD may also: Reduce or totally withhold your state income tax refunds, lottery winnings, or any other money owed to you by the state. File a claim against you in court, charge you court costs and interest, and record a lien on your property.

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your 1099 income is not covered by unemployment, but it is a wise idea to inform the EDD of the small amount of income you are deriving from the self employmen

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YES. You MUST report all your income to UE. To not do so is benefits fraud. It won't necessarily disqualify you, but will reduce your benefit. So ANY income you are making while collecting UE that is NOT reported constitutes benefits fraud. "but don't understand why I shouldn't be able to collect my rightful unemployment benefits if my 1099 income is not enough or comparable" - You can collect what you are entitled to. It's just that you ARE NOT entitled to as much if you are making other income. Right now you are taking money you ARE NOT entitled to.

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