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Is it possible that a civilisation like ours has already existed?

Since religious belief existed in tribal societies before economic class societies existed how can it be said?

  • Since religious belief existed in tribal societies before economic class societies existed how can it be said that Religion is the Opium of the masses and used by the Bourgeoisie to keep the Proletariat oppressed I would like to support Socialism and Marxism and Communism but I don't understand Marxism's views on religion ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people

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    It's true that religious or spiritual beliefs have existed throughout differing socioeconomic structures, but the function of those beliefs is neither static nor universal. In any case, it would be overly simplistic to say that in Marxist terms, religion is simply a tool of oppression by the ruling classes. As Marx puts it: 'Religious suffering is at one and the same time the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world and the soul of soulless conditions.' While religion may be used by the ruling classes to keep the masses in line, it is also a profound social gesture of those same masses, and that sense of religion as collective expression is exhibited in many different socioeconomic forms, including tribal societies. There is nothing in the Marxist critique of religion that posits it solely within the framework of capitalist society.

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You are absolutely right ! Marx evaded the point that humans are developed animal species but they do not want to be reminded so, had he said so his thesis would have been null and void. communism and capitalism , both are materailistic and fight with same weapons.

A tool can exist before someone uses it in a dangerous way. Proving that religion pre-dated economic opression does not mean that religion was never used to promote economic oppression.

Anything can be said, that doesn't make what is said correct. Socialists, Marxists, and Communists reject God, they think they know more than God. Why support the abscess of the planet. Communism had been the cause of more human suffering than any system ever known.

Water predates life. Water drowns people. Since water predates human existence, how can it be be said that drowning is bad?

Tribes have economic classes too, more cattle, more camels, more land or wives. All of those have economic benefits and so create an economic class structure. It happens that Christianity is the kind of religion he was talking about, it has a strong thread of rewards in the afterlife, therefore don't complain about your status in this life, your reward will come after death. That's very convenient when you want to convince the serfs not to ask for a crust of the bread they grew, ground and baked.

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