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Why do women use female gender roles to justify males ones when...?

  • I've seen a lot of women use the fact that they're expected to do all the housework and look after the home as an excuse to justify men having to pay for everything and give a lot of stuff. Okay, that would be understandable, as you both contribute equally in a way. I believe in full equality and believe that nobody should ever be forced into either of those roles just because of their gender. But, if there's gender roles in a relationship, who is the one who initiates the sexism? That's right, WOMEN DO! Women make men pay for everything and do all the work from the FIRST DATE! Men don't make women do the housework until they move in together, which could be MONTHS if it even happens at all! By the time they've moved in together, the man has probably done his roles HUNDREDS of times! Not to mention that only a small amount of relationships even get to that point! It's even LESS likely if you are both young and not ready to move in together yet. Not to mention, a lot of women don't do those roles but STILL expect MEN to do THEIRS! I don't think EITHER gender should be forced into roles based solely on gender, but repeat after me: WOMEN ARE THE ONES WHO INITIATE THE GENDER ROLES IN A RELATIONSHIP! Women are the first to make men follow their gender roles. Men do it to women AFTERWARDS. Therefore, female gender roles in a relationship are NOT an excuse to justify male ones! It would actually make more sense to use MALE gender roles to justify FEMALE ones! If a man doesn't do his gender roles but still expects a women to do hers, THEN she can complain, but unless that happens, you can't use things that might happen in the FUTURE to justify the PRESENT!

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    I don't do this or didn't when I was dating! I did not expect him to pay for everything & initiate everything when we were dating! We both did! But I agree with you that your very accurate when stating that is generally what is expected in general. I think its because chivalry does still exist just with the new found age of feminism too. So it was always tradition for a man to be in that role & that expectation was kept. But Women (generalizing) gaining the rights we have didn't start contributing half equally! It is hypocritical!

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Hear, hear!

Haha - I never thought about it that way. It's a relatively decent point, but I suppose if the man is that caught up in it, he could readily refuse to pay for all the dates, can't he? My main issue with many feminists is that they want to pick and choose gender roles. For instance, nearly all of the girls I knew who are close in age to me are far from Suzy Homemaker - they may clean a bit, and maybe even decorate some, but very few are actually good cooks or keep a house/apartment in pristine condition. Yet, they expect men to know what's wrong with their car, their computer, etc. and do all the "manly" things around the house. The fact of the matter is that cooking and cleaning technologies have not changed drastically over the past 30 years, but if you look at electronics and cars, it's next to impossible to do too much on your own nowadays. You really need to be specially trained to do work on them. Doing basic work (changing the oil, wiping a harddrive) is one thing, but it's quite another to do anything beyond that. Yet women expect a man to be handy around the house while they can't find their way around the kitchen... Similarly, many expect men to help out with household chores, but wouldn't be caught dead mowing the lawn or shoveling snow... Obviously, not all women (or men for that matter) fall into these categories, but the reality is that a vast majority of women in their 20's have this type of feeling - that men should help with the "female" chores, but they shouldn't have to help with the male.

Yesterday, I went to a Starbucks with my girlfriend. She paid.

you ***** alot. like a woman.

Not to mention that they've "freed" themselves from their "oppressive" gender roles while still expecting us to keep ours.

Whats your question? You just gave a very biased statement, I fail understand what you want us to do? Agree with you? Well I don't. I think your a dick who hates women.

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