Is it okay to renegotiate rent on a month to month agreement?
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So I have been living in this place for about 5-6 months and things have been going alright for the most part (except one roommate does absolutely NOTHING related to commons). The agreement my roommate came up with was X dollars a month + a share of the utilities. He is the lease-holder and is subletting the room, so I don't have much say in the matter. I recently found out that he is charging me $50.00 shy of HALF the total rent in a 3 bedroom apartment. He also rents out the other room to his girlfriend for an unknown amount. He also has the master bedroom with a private full bathroom, while I have a tiny room that is roughly 1/3 the size of his. I confronted him about this and his response was to cover his face, say he wasn't aware that the rent was that amount, and then avoid me for the next 3 days.. Am I being greedy in wanting to pay an equal share of the rent, in exchange for providing stability in renting the room? (he's had months of trouble renting it out in the past). Please, some advice on possible choices ( I've already started looking for bigger places for equal value), or sharing of past experiences. thanks!
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Answer:
I would offer him what I consider fair rent, whatever that may be. Before I began any negotiation with him, I would shop other renting opportunities to make sure that I had options. Don't paint yourself into a corner. You can only negotiate with power if you are prepared to move. Otherwise, you are at his mercy. I would not threaten to move unless you can really move. Bluffing with your shelter is risky
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That's called business, friend. Get used to it. Maybe next time you will be the one holding the lease on a 5 BR home and renting out 4 of the other rooms to suckers like yourself. You can charge them each 1/3 rent and make money for yourself. (1/3 x 4 = 4/3 ... if rent is $900 and you are charging them all $300, you are pocketing $300 for yourself.) And by the way ... month to month renters have no business setting demands on rent adjustment. If you have no lease, you have no say.
That's called business, friend. Get used to it. Maybe next time you will be the one holding the lease on a 5 BR home and renting out 4 of the other rooms to suckers like yourself. You can charge them each 1/3 rent and make money for yourself. (1/3 x 4 = 4/3 ... if rent is $900 and you are charging them all $300, you are pocketing $300 for yourself.) And by the way ... month to month renters have no business setting demands on rent adjustment. If you have no lease, you have no say.
Mark P.
I would offer him what I consider fair rent, whatever that may be. Before I began any negotiation with him, I would shop other renting opportunities to make sure that I had options. Don't paint yourself into a corner. You can only negotiate with power if you are prepared to move. Otherwise, you are at his mercy. I would not threaten to move unless you can really move. Bluffing with your shelter is risky
RonJon
You're being reasonable, and your roommate is being greedy. You already know this, I suspect, but you need reassurance for some reason. Work out a more fair arrangement on paper, confront him again, (reminding him of your original conversation), and show him your proposal. Ask him to read it, and respond. Be friendly, calm and reasonable. Tell him you would HATE to have to move somewhere else, because you so enjoy his company and the apartment, but that you really need to have a more equitable distribution of rent expenses in order to stay on.
You know it depends on what your asking for. At the end of the day. He holds the cards and the upper hand because the lease is in his name. Meaning, by you getting cheeky and challenging him he can just boot you out. Because he has the lease. However, bein gin his position, also comes with a realisation, that who is to say the next person who moves in and replaces you is going to be better. Quite simply, that next person could be alot worse. More so if the person does not pay their rent while staying there. So in his position , right now clearly he has a good roomate, who does their fare share of work around the home, and at the same time always pays their rent on time. This gives you a valuable bargaining tool in negotiating a better deal for yourself. And its about having the gift of mouth, to comme up with the right words to convince that you pay less. Such as why does he rent a room to his girlfriend, when she should be sleeping with him etc. Therefore moving in another roomate., who pays additional rent. Dropping the amount you have to pay.
You know it depends on what your asking for. At the end of the day. He holds the cards and the upper hand because the lease is in his name. Meaning, by you getting cheeky and challenging him he can just boot you out. Because he has the lease. However, bein gin his position, also comes with a realisation, that who is to say the next person who moves in and replaces you is going to be better. Quite simply, that next person could be alot worse. More so if the person does not pay their rent while staying there. So in his position , right now clearly he has a good roomate, who does their fare share of work around the home, and at the same time always pays their rent on time. This gives you a valuable bargaining tool in negotiating a better deal for yourself. And its about having the gift of mouth, to comme up with the right words to convince that you pay less. Such as why does he rent a room to his girlfriend, when she should be sleeping with him etc. Therefore moving in another roomate., who pays additional rent. Dropping the amount you have to pay.
Mr Warrior
You're being reasonable, and your roommate is being greedy. You already know this, I suspect, but you need reassurance for some reason. Work out a more fair arrangement on paper, confront him again, (reminding him of your original conversation), and show him your proposal. Ask him to read it, and respond. Be friendly, calm and reasonable. Tell him you would HATE to have to move somewhere else, because you so enjoy his company and the apartment, but that you really need to have a more equitable distribution of rent expenses in order to stay on.
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