Does my 2002 Mercury Sable really need all new wheels or is the tire shop trying to rip?
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My girlfriend lost control of her pos 2002 Mercury Sable. She ended up off the highway and shredded a tire /wheel, I popped the donut on there and drove it to discount tire for a quote. The salesman said that the wheels are all nicked up and corroded and should be replaced as well as needing 4 new tires. I agree about the tires. Anyways they talked me into agreeing to 4 new steel wheels plus 4 new tires, all as basic as they come, no thrills, anyways it's gonna be $700 and I get a $200 mail in rebate to fill out. I'm starting to wonder if they ripped me off, It just seems stupid to drop $700 into a pos car with 150k miles. Does that even make sense that I would need new wheels? They said that the old wheels would eventually make the tires leak because the new tires wouldn't be able to get a tight seal due to corrosion. I at first gave them $115 for a new wheel and a used tire just to get home safely, they let me return that and agree to this new deal for another 3 wheels and 4 new tires, I gave them a new $100 deposit. Now I'm not so sure if I should even go back to get this new package. What should I do?
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Heh, "EVENTUALLY make the tires leak." [Emphasis added] And you'v got 150k mi on a 10 yr old car and they [apparently] havent leaked yet. So when would eventually likely be, @ 250k? But there IS a grain of truth to what they'r saying; the wheels [apparently] DO have 150k mi on em and COULD well have some corrosion or other irregularities that could cause probs w/ seating the tires well. AND it's good to be preventive. AND it's also good to be skeptical, esp in the retail auto biz. Maybe cynical, even. SO, I'd spend as lil as poss that's consistent w/ safety and prevention. Get 2nd n 3rd opinions. Read Consumer Reports mag on tires. And check your air press frequently, and try to assess the quality of the rims.
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I really think you need some Georgia air to fill those tires with. Georgia air is proven to last longer than any other air. Luckily, I am a supplier of Georgia air (hot of course). It comes in quarts and gallons. I can e-mail it if you wish! If you fell for the wheels, you might fall for the air too!
br549
I really think you need some Georgia air to fill those tires with. Georgia air is proven to last longer than any other air. Luckily, I am a supplier of Georgia air (hot of course). It comes in quarts and gallons. I can e-mail it if you wish! If you fell for the wheels, you might fall for the air too!
br549
There is no need for new wheels. UNLESS: 1. Your wheels are severely bent to the point where balancing the tires is an issue or 2. Someone stole them. They are trying to rip you off. Leaking beads can be sealed with something called bead sealer. Ive seen some pretty bad corrosion. Usually, I grind the corrosion off with a whiz wheel on a die grinder, use bead sealer and it works fine. Try finding another tire shop; you are better off going to a different shop, and tell them to use bead sealer.
Moses
Go to the junk yard and get four used wheels. That is the old one's cannot be cleaned up. Only really corroded would stop them from sealing. Even then you can still inner tub's install. If the rim is bend, then you replace it. To me it sound like this shop is trying to make a sale. At The junk yard you may find a matching set mag's. Usually they have used tire's in good shape as well.
Tex G
Go to the junk yard and get four used wheels. That is the old one's cannot be cleaned up. Only really corroded would stop them from sealing. Even then you can still inner tub's install. If the rim is bend, then you replace it. To me it sound like this shop is trying to make a sale. At The junk yard you may find a matching set mag's. Usually they have used tire's in good shape as well.
Tex G
There is no need for new wheels. UNLESS: 1. Your wheels are severely bent to the point where balancing the tires is an issue or 2. Someone stole them. They are trying to rip you off. Leaking beads can be sealed with something called bead sealer. Ive seen some pretty bad corrosion. Usually, I grind the corrosion off with a whiz wheel on a die grinder, use bead sealer and it works fine. Try finding another tire shop; you are better off going to a different shop, and tell them to use bead sealer.
Moses
Heh, "EVENTUALLY make the tires leak." [Emphasis added] And you'v got 150k mi on a 10 yr old car and they [apparently] havent leaked yet. So when would eventually likely be, @ 250k? But there IS a grain of truth to what they'r saying; the wheels [apparently] DO have 150k mi on em and COULD well have some corrosion or other irregularities that could cause probs w/ seating the tires well. AND it's good to be preventive. AND it's also good to be skeptical, esp in the retail auto biz. Maybe cynical, even. SO, I'd spend as lil as poss that's consistent w/ safety and prevention. Get 2nd n 3rd opinions. Read Consumer Reports mag on tires. And check your air press frequently, and try to assess the quality of the rims.
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I'll second Moses' answer. Corroded wheels can most certainly be sanded back to clean metal along the bead, and bead sealer will take care of any air gap left by pitting in the steel or aluminum. They're ripping you the hell off.
Dana
You have made a deal with them get them and put them on
Mark
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