Why do so many people say athiests don't have any proof that God doesn't exist?
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Firstly let me clear this up for you guys. In this post whenever I say God (note the capitalization) I am referring the the Judeo-Christian god, the one that is omnibenevolent, omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent. I am also trying to prove that God doesn't exist. I cannot prove that a general deity doesn't exist, but I am offering proof for why the abrahamic God cannot actually exist. Firstly, to keep it simple. Contradictions in scripture. If God was omniscient and influenced texts such as the bible (which is the word of God) that it could not logically contradict itself, however it does. Either God doesn't exist or the bible isn't the word of God or God is fallible (which still means God doesn't exist). An example of a biblical contradiction is the factual proof for evolution, yet the bible states God crafted man with him own hands. The second reason takes the form of a paradox. Can God create a rock larger than he can lift? If God cannot then is not omnipotent, but is he can then he is still not omnipotent, since he cannot lift a rock bigger than him. The paradox doesn't even have to stay with omnipotence. Allow to widen this to omniscience as well. Say God is omniscient then he knows what is certain to happen in the future, because it is certain however he cannot influence it at all and therefore he is not omnipotent.If God lacks omniscience or omnipotence then he is not the God of Christianity. This leads me onto two arguments that I devised myself. One if very similar to the last and it is the argument from free will. Here is the link http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ahe9oWKJ2If8SU.Mn8NsYx8hBgx.;_ylv=3?qid=20120317082355AAaPiI2 (it is too long to post here, but I have discussed it here before as with both of my arguments). Try to dispute that. Now my other argument regarding hell is here, but first let me say this. If hell doesn't exist then the Christian God doesn't exist because he is described as a judge who sends people to hell by the catholic church (lead by the pope who is also infallible because of guidance from the holy spirit [who happens to be God according to the holy trinity]). This therefore proves God doesn't exist albeit in a slightly indirect way - http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AmqNNQoDAuagvPM_KYjwzEIhBgx.;_ylv=3?qid=20120330142156AAYHwOF. I will now throw ockhams razor into the recipe for disaster. Because everything in our universe can inevitably be explained by science there is no need for God. When I say everything I am aware we don't know waht caused the big bang as such to happen, but according to ockhams razor it is futile to try to explain how something works by giving a more complex proposition. If God created the universe you have now caused more questions than you have answered. How did God do it? What is God made of? How does God have emotions and be transcendent. Etc. Therefore it is logically to take the conclusion which is the simplest. This is always the conclusion that leaves God out of itself. This argument is something similar to Richard Dawkins Ultimate Boeing 747 Gambit. Say for I said to you "sir there is definitely a invisible pink unicorn flying above you so high up that you cannot reach it or otherwise sense it". You as a rational human being would dismiss what I just said because I am claiming to believe something exists even though I have no proof that it does and there is no reason to believe it exists. Because believing in a God can actually hinder you (having less time due to worship etc) there is no reason to believe in God, so belief in God requires proof. Theists have no proof so just like the unicorn I can dismiss any claim that God exists. A few more big arguments to throw into the shake up: The problem of evil. The argument from poor design (a flawed world = a flawed creator). Some final things to ponder on are: Why over time have there been so many different religions? Why must it be God that is the true deity? Can it not be zeus, wotan, thor, venus...? The fact that there are over 5000 different recordable gods over time is a big enough reason to not believe in the Christian God. Also note that we are all born atheist. If you are socialised in Ireland you will be a catholic, England a atheist or maybe a protestant, India a Hindu, Iran a Muslim, Thailand a Buddhist, another bit of India a Jain or a Sikh, some parts of the USA a Satanist. Even Christians come in many forms. Catholics, Baptists, Protestants, Quakers, Methodists... There. The Judeo-Christian concept of God doesn't exist. @mjmorell So we have concluded that the bible isn't infallible. Interesting, so we have now proved that all the one billion Catholics have wrong beliefs. Regarding that paradox I actually answered it myself here. I agree with you that the whole paradox is merely playing semantics. To solve it: God cannot perform logically impossible things. God cannot create a square circle but this doesn't hinder his omnipotence, likewise he cannot create a rock too heavy for him to lift because he can lift everything...
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The thick dribbling twatts who come out with that nonsense, are the thick-as-mince swamp people who go around saying they have a 'relationship' with god or christ or whatever. When in reality, if brains were dynamite, they wouldn't have enough to blow their fukkin noses. They wouldn't believe or appreciate concrete evidence if it came up and booted them in the knackers. You're 100% right, it/he or whatever, does not exist.
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The thick dribbling twatts who come out with that nonsense, are the thick-as-mince swamp people who go around saying they have a 'relationship' with god or christ or whatever. When in reality, if brains were dynamite, they wouldn't have enough to blow their fukkin noses. They wouldn't believe or appreciate concrete evidence if it came up and booted them in the knackers. You're 100% right, it/he or whatever, does not exist.
Jack
This is way to complex for them to comprehend, maybe if you turned into a parable with some talking animals and a bearded guy they might vaguely get it then turn it into several religions.
tom t
Great job! Now just compact that into a single paragraph, and I will read it.
Sol
Great job! Now just compact that into a single paragraph, and I will read it.
Oiad 0=∞
And you expect them to read this? The reason most say we don't have "proof" is because they choose to ignore such proof.
Reaper
And you expect them to read this? The reason most say we don't have "proof" is because they choose to ignore such proof.
Reaper
This is way to complex for them to comprehend, maybe if you turned into a parable with some talking animals and a bearded guy they might vaguely get it then turn it into several religions.
tom t
None of that is proof. Of course, we need none. ADDENDUM "I wanted to prove them wrong." You failed.
So I take it you do not understand that it is a belief, only a belief? I personally wonder why you spent so much time and effort trying to disprove a belief. Are you that shaky in your own? Think about it!
Archer
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