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Are we being taught to think in terms of empty space and eventless time or ‘nothing”?

  • Pythagoras (600 BC) said that the substance of all things in universe is number. Parmenides (b.515 BC) said that if a thing changed where it is, it means it is made out of nothing and that an intelligible world must be indestructible and unchangeable. Leucippus and Democritus (500 BC) said that if the world existed in the absence of man, then it must be constituted of indestructible particles and infinite void. Even today Holographic principle is used to de-emphasize the contents of the space occupied by all the realities. Even Newton, in his dynamics of change, de-emphasized the contents of the space occupied by the ‘mass’. The only way to show or communicate time is to show ‘time’ by “time on a clock” with date/moth/year. A duration or period or unit of time must be shown by two clock readings. Motion can only be shown by positions on the line of motion and corresponding clock-readings. But clock readings are never used in physics. Therefore on the axis of time every instant of time stays permanently like a point. In physics a thing said to be in motion stays permanently at all point on its line of motion without moving and also a body has all the velocities all the time, its velocity does not change at any point of space-time because man cannot teach others how time is filled. Therefore Zeno (490 BC) could prove that motion is impossible and that the swift moving Achilles can never overtake the slow moving tortoise just one foot ahead, It is neither possible to communicate how and with what space occupied by the reality is filled nor it is possible to fill time by state of change. Descartes did not allow anyone to realize that a formula cannot fill any space or time; he misled all into believing that a curve, which we get by assigning and calculating values, has continuity similar to that which we get by moving the pencil from the paper even though we cannot show/communicate motion. Even Einstein’s idea of space-time continuum is constructed out of empty space and eventless time. Therefore if one man tries to teach another man how to think he can only teach the other to think in terms of empty space and eventless time or in terms of nothing. Newton legitimised thinking in terms of nothing so that the word cause can be removed from science. Therefore according to science - Newton’s way of thinking - destruction caused to Hiroshima and Nagasaki by atom bombs was illusion. The ideas of space and time in physics compel us to accept that if there is any change it would not be sensible to human being. Logically if the world is a 'material world', destruction caused by atom bombs is illusion. If change is not illusion then world has to be both material and immaterial at the same time (like a quantum) and we cannot develop a view of the world. The truth is we cannot develop a world-view in which death and destruction are not illusion. It seems that the changeable reality is a prescription for thinking in one direction in time and that Newton developed a wrong prescription for thinking in one direction in time.

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    You cite some very very old stuff. And then, somehow, catapult those old archaic thoughts into the 21st century. I'm sorry, but your thesis fails to hold water. If anything, we are now being taught that space is filled with stuff. In fact we are taught that space itself is stuff. That's why space can adjust; it's actually a something. A void would not adjust because it's nothing; so there'd be nothing there to adjust. Here are just a few things that space, according to present consensus, is filled with: the Higgs Field, gravity fields, radiant energy, infinitely thin vibrating strings of all sorts, polarized space quanta (space itself as quanta), black balls (aka black holes), and of course, as Carl Sagan used to say, "billions and billions of galaxies with billions of stars." I'm sure I've omitted some things as the list of what fills space is long. As to your hypothesis on time, that, too, is way off base from contemporary thinking. [See source.] American Indians told time way before your Rolex was even thought of. They simply looked at the Sun and Moon and kept and communicated time by them. But these are measures of time, not time itself. Time has always been, is now, and always will be...amen. Time is no more or less than the unfolding of events. And consensus is that our big bang, the one that birthed our universe, was the effect of a quantum event, which was the cause. That is, that event began to unfold before our little piece of space time existed; therefore, time existed before our universe was created. So there you are. Not only did time exist before our universe came along, the mother universe that spawned our little nugget of low entropy space time was not a void. It was, is, and will be filled with quanta. And legitimate cosmologists tend to believe the mother universe is chaotic with these quanta; so it is in a high entropy state. If you want to know what contemporary thought is on time and space, I suggest you read contemporary works rather than the old philosophers who, for the most part, were way off base. Check out the list I've suggested in sources below:

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You cite some very very old stuff. And then, somehow, catapult those old archaic thoughts into the 21st century. I'm sorry, but your thesis fails to hold water. If anything, we are now being taught that space is filled with stuff. In fact we are taught that space itself is stuff. That's why space can adjust; it's actually a something. A void would not adjust because it's nothing; so there'd be nothing there to adjust. Here are just a few things that space, according to present consensus, is filled with: the Higgs Field, gravity fields, radiant energy, infinitely thin vibrating strings of all sorts, polarized space quanta (space itself as quanta), black balls (aka black holes), and of course, as Carl Sagan used to say, "billions and billions of galaxies with billions of stars." I'm sure I've omitted some things as the list of what fills space is long. As to your hypothesis on time, that, too, is way off base from contemporary thinking. [See source.] American Indians told time way before your Rolex was even thought of. They simply looked at the Sun and Moon and kept and communicated time by them. But these are measures of time, not time itself. Time has always been, is now, and always will be...amen. Time is no more or less than the unfolding of events. And consensus is that our big bang, the one that birthed our universe, was the effect of a quantum event, which was the cause. That is, that event began to unfold before our little piece of space time existed; therefore, time existed before our universe was created. So there you are. Not only did time exist before our universe came along, the mother universe that spawned our little nugget of low entropy space time was not a void. It was, is, and will be filled with quanta. And legitimate cosmologists tend to believe the mother universe is chaotic with these quanta; so it is in a high entropy state. If you want to know what contemporary thought is on time and space, I suggest you read contemporary works rather than the old philosophers who, for the most part, were way off base. Check out the list I've suggested in sources below:

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We are starting to think that Spacetime is something. It had properties, it can expand, contract, bend, warp, and be twisted. Dark Energy may be the fabric when we speak of the Fabric of Spacetime. Spacetime can be quantized (See Planck Units). There exists a smallest possible time (the time it takes for a photon to travel the width of a proton (Hydrogen nucleus about 6*10^-34 s). Time cannot be divided into any smaller increment. So, Zeno fails in 2 ways: 1) When your goal is a Planck Length away, your next time step that can be no smaller that a Planck Time will take you to your goal 2) Mathamatics resolves Zeno by the concept of a Limit. If I can get to within an arbitrary finite distance or less of my goal within a finite number of steps then I have reached my goal

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We are starting to think that Spacetime is something. It had properties, it can expand, contract, bend, warp, and be twisted. Dark Energy may be the fabric when we speak of the Fabric of Spacetime. Spacetime can be quantized (See Planck Units). There exists a smallest possible time (the time it takes for a photon to travel the width of a proton (Hydrogen nucleus about 6*10^-34 s). Time cannot be divided into any smaller increment. So, Zeno fails in 2 ways: 1) When your goal is a Planck Length away, your next time step that can be no smaller that a Planck Time will take you to your goal 2) Mathamatics resolves Zeno by the concept of a Limit. If I can get to within an arbitrary finite distance or less of my goal within a finite number of steps then I have reached my goal

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