CHALLENGE #2 - What makes you think that because the universe exists there had to be a "creator"?

First, an infinite universe is inexplicable. Why is this infinite series of states called the universe even happening at all? If you accept that nothing exists for no reason, an infinite regress must be avoided because it contains no explanation. The universe could not have created itself because the universe, I think you would agree, is a set of parts. That means that the parts had to be in existence before the universe could actually be constructed. God, on the other hand, has no parts. He is ultimately simple. Therefore, there are no preconditions that have to be fulfilled in order for him to exist. Since nothing was keeping him from existing, he has never not existed, and needs no external creator. He is self-creating by virtue of his internal quality of ultimate simplicity.

First, an infinite universe is inexplicable. Why is this infinite series of states called the universe even happening at all? If you accept that nothing exists for no reason, an infinite regress must be avoided because it contains no explanation. The universe could not have created itself because the universe, I think you would agree, is a set of parts. That means that the parts had to be in existence before the universe could actually be constructed. God, on the other hand, has no parts. He is ultimately simple. Therefore, there are no preconditions that have to be fulfilled in order for him to exist. Since nothing was keeping him from existing, he has never not existed, and needs no external creator. He is self-creating by virtue of his internal quality of ultimate simplicity.

I don't think that at all. Consider the universe would have to look exactly as it does if there were NO creator. How did it begin? Physicists can explain nucleosynthesis all the way back to the Planck time (10^-35th sec ATB). Isn't that close enough? "Prior" to that you have quantum foam, where words like "before" or "beginning" don't really mean a whole lot. At those scales, time can move backwards and even sideways.

I don't think that at all. Consider the universe would have to look exactly as it does if there were NO creator. How did it begin? Physicists can explain nucleosynthesis all the way back to the Planck time (10^-35th sec ATB). Isn't that close enough? "Prior" to that you have quantum foam, where words like "before" or "beginning" don't really mean a whole lot. At those scales, time can move backwards and even sideways.

I honestly believe that science is to complicated to have created itself Science repeats itself, so this lead me to believe that somewhere there has to be some type of law regulating science. Who created these laws of the universe? I'm not a religious person, but there has to be some type of power out there. Maybe were all part of some advanced computer system, regulated by code that was written by greater beings. We will never know, be happy without knowing peace

I honestly believe that science is to complicated to have created itself Science repeats itself, so this lead me to believe that somewhere there has to be some type of law regulating science. Who created these laws of the universe? I'm not a religious person, but there has to be some type of power out there. Maybe were all part of some advanced computer system, regulated by code that was written by greater beings. We will never know, be happy without knowing peace

They think the universe is like a watch that a tribal dweller would find hidden in the sand. They find the watch and just assume there is a creator. And now they worship the watch maker and in some cases calumniate this life in order to make the 'watch maker' seem more appealing by comparison.

1)Humans created God. 2) We don't really know how the universe began, best bet is Big Bang. I feel your frustration, its the eternal (LOL) question. Every since the first thinking human looked at the world and said , ":how did all this get here", we have been coming up with ideas . Every nation and civilization apparently made up their own answer. For thousands of years it was good enough. Our society has some of the best minds and equipment to analyze this and Im going to accept their ideas, over the drunken ramblings of a goat herder in the desert four thousand years ago.

who created God? i sure as heck don't know, as far as i know he has always been in existence. However it is irrelevant to know his origin, all we need know of is his existence. Universal origin? a tiny infinite, which for no apparent reason (according to atheists) blew up and is still creating our universe. I love science, especially biology.