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Overall, do the better players play in La Liga and? (Knowledgeable users only?)?

  • Is the quality more spread out? I mean, in the EPL, only City and United have quality right throughout the squad. Arsenal have 2 outstanding players in RVP and Sanga. More or less it now with the dec,line of some players. But in La Liga it's different. Clearly Barcelona and Real Madrid are full of World Class footballers. But then there's teams like: Atletico - World Class striker in Falcao, outstandingly talented forward with Adrian Lopez and a very exciting winger in Arda Turan. Bilbao - Llorente is just great. De Marcos is very talented and Iker Munain will probably be a big star 1 day. Villarreal - Giuseppe Rossi and Christian Zapata = quality Malaga - Santi Cazorla is a great talent and one of the World's finest dead-ball experts. Toulalan is a quality player too. Kameni is a solid, reliable keeper Valencia have a very good team. Their main striker, former Madrid youth player Soldado, has ended the international career of Fernando Torres. Sevilla - Spahic, Medel and Fazio are very talented, quality players and Jesus Navas is still one of the best wingers on the market. Is the quality of La Liga more spread out than the EPL? Looking at teams that roughly correspond to EPL teams in terms of position, the quality doesn't match. Atletico are 7th or 8th, I'm not convinced that Liverpool have the same calibre of players that they do, and Sunderland, who are 8th, have nowhere near as much quality as Atletico Madrid. Sevilla are 9th, but Everton, 9th in the EPL have nowhere near their level of talent. Bilbao are 11th, likewise Norwich, do Norwich have anyone remotely as good as Llorente and Munain? Villarreal are 16th, Blackburn, West Brom and Bolton could only dream of having talent like Senna, Rossi and Zapata. Is the tealent pool more spread out in the EPL? I'm on the opinion that Toulalan, Cazorla, Falcao, Munain, Llorente, Senna and others would be among the EPL's very best if they joined. PS: I'm lookin for intelligent answers NOT ''haha weak La Liga/Weak EPL'' and not a grammar nazi picking out any typo I may have made above. @ Hassan Sessengon and Mcclean Falcao, Turan, Adrian Lopez? No. Give up. @ Man Utd pride of England - Didn't I saw knowledgeable users? Lol. Correspond the team of the 2 leagues based on position in the tables. By the way those players couldn't get into any La Liga team, they'd all see B team action at best in Madrid or Barcelona.

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    haha weak La Liga/Weak EPL btw it's 'decline' not 'dec,line'

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you have only named 1 or 2 good players for malaga,valencia,sevilla,villareal,bilbao everton-baines,fellaini spurs-bale,modric,vdv newcastle-the two dembas,ben afra,cabaye chelsea-mata,cole,luiz,ivanovic swansea-dyer,sinclair--they are really good sunderland-mclean,campbell,sessengon mclean is going to be amazing.You OBV havent seen him play

Hassan

you have only named 1 or 2 good players for malaga,valencia,sevilla,villareal,bilbao everton-baines,fellaini spurs-bale,modric,vdv newcastle-the two dembas,ben afra,cabaye chelsea-mata,cole,luiz,ivanovic swansea-dyer,sinclair--they are really good sunderland-mclean,campbell,sessengon mclean is going to be amazing.You OBV havent seen him play

Hassan

Arsenal - World-class striker rvp and potential world-class midfielder jack wilshere Spurs- top-class qualty all around in Bale, modric, adebayor, Van der vaart. Something valencia could only dream of. Chelsea - world class again in torres (only if he was on-form) Mata, drogba (deteriorating, but on his day still one of the best in the world), Essien, the world's best defensive midfielder, and an exciting young striker in sturridge. Again, levante wouldn't even dream of such quality. Newcastle - Quality strikers like demba ba and Cisse, and classy midfielder like cabaye and tiote. Not to talk of the exciting attacking midfielder ben arfa. Osasuna have nowhere near such class and talent. Soooooo I give it to you, some of the talent in the epl would WALK STRAIGHT INTO THE STARTING 11 OF ANY TEAM IN LA LIGA.

Non-gloryhunting united fan

No Every team has their own starlets. Also Sevilla are having a very bad season, they should be 4th in the league and be compared to Tottenham. Also Villarreal are having an even worse season, they should be compared to Newcastle realistically. You are simply ignoring all the average teams like Osasuna and Levante, who by your logic should be compared to Chelsea and Newcastle. But it doesn't work like that. I could go through Premier League teams and say their starlets, as a matter of a fact, I will do exactly that just like you have. Newcastle are 6th, Osasuna don't have ANY players to rival Krul, Coloccini, Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse, Ba etc... Fulham are 13th, Real Mallorca have no top quality players. Fulham have Hangeland (best defender outside top 5), Dempsey (18 goals despite being a wide-midfielder), Pogrebnyak (5 goals in first 3 games for club), formidable Murphy+Diarra partnership in midfield. Dembele is also quality. This is your entire argument, you are just comparing teams based on league position. For example if you compare Serie A with La Liga, you find that Inter Milan are 7th and so is Espanyol. That may make La Liga look very weak but the truth is that Inter Milan are having a very bad season. You don't seem to want to take this into account. Therefore your argument is very FLAWED.

Arsenal - World-class striker rvp and potential world-class midfielder jack wilshere Spurs- top-class qualty all around in Bale, modric, adebayor, Van der vaart. Something valencia could only dream of. Chelsea - world class again in torres (only if he was on-form) Mata, drogba (deteriorating, but on his day still one of the best in the world), Essien, the world's best defensive midfielder, and an exciting young striker in sturridge. Again, levante wouldn't even dream of such quality. Newcastle - Quality strikers like demba ba and Cisse, and classy midfielder like cabaye and tiote. Not to talk of the exciting attacking midfielder ben arfa. Osasuna have nowhere near such class and talent. Soooooo I give it to you, some of the talent in the epl would WALK STRAIGHT INTO THE STARTING 11 OF ANY TEAM IN LA LIGA.

oh robin van persie

I'm not having a go because you do seem knowledgeable within your niche that is Spanish Football, but you're looking for a debate without presenting both side's and it qualifies as bias. You named 15 La Liga players and two Premier League players. You've written it to look like La Liga have far greater depth in terms of quality than the Premier League, which may or may not be true but you won't find a worthy debate if you only present the La Liga side of the arguement. If I used your post as a template and replaced the La Liga players with Premier League players it'd hold just as much weight, because I'm only arguing one side.

No Every team has their own starlets. Also Sevilla are having a very bad season, they should be 4th in the league and be compared to Tottenham. Also Villarreal are having an even worse season, they should be compared to Newcastle realistically. You are simply ignoring all the average teams like Osasuna and Levante, who by your logic should be compared to Chelsea and Newcastle. But it doesn't work like that. I could go through Premier League teams and say their starlets, as a matter of a fact, I will do exactly that just like you have. Newcastle are 6th, Osasuna don't have ANY players to rival Krul, Coloccini, Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse, Ba etc... Fulham are 13th, Real Mallorca have no top quality players. Fulham have Hangeland (best defender outside top 5), Dempsey (18 goals despite being a wide-midfielder), Pogrebnyak (5 goals in first 3 games for club), formidable Murphy+Diarra partnership in midfield. Dembele is also quality. This is your entire argument, you are just comparing teams based on league position. For example if you compare Serie A with La Liga, you find that Inter Milan are 7th and so is Espanyol. That may make La Liga look very weak but the truth is that Inter Milan are having a very bad season. You don't seem to want to take this into account. Therefore your argument is very FLAWED.

Koala Toure 

I'm not having a go because you do seem knowledgeable within your niche that is Spanish Football, but you're looking for a debate without presenting both side's and it qualifies as bias. You named 15 La Liga players and two Premier League players. You've written it to look like La Liga have far greater depth in terms of quality than the Premier League, which may or may not be true but you won't find a worthy debate if you only present the La Liga side of the arguement. If I used your post as a template and replaced the La Liga players with Premier League players it'd hold just as much weight, because I'm only arguing one side.

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