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For rock climbing what's the difference between non-dry/dry rope/static rope/everyday rope?

  • I have been getting into indoor rock climbing and will soon venture toward outdoor climbing. As I'm looking into gear I noticed differences in rope types but not much information on its difference when being used. Which type of rope is best for indoor climbing and which is best for outdoor climbing? Or it doesn't matter? Thanks in advance! I asked about the ropes specified in my original question because they are listed on REI's site. HERE-- http://www.rei.com/category/4500081 - I too questioned why a climbing rope would be considered "Everyday Rope" if it is in the CLIMBING ROPE section of their site...it's misleading more than anything. with little to no knowledge it would make sense that I would pose the question here before going out of my way otherwise. thanks for responding.

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    Static rope doesn't stretch at all. So it is ONLY suitable for rappelling or for short top roped climbs, like you would have on a climbing wall. Since it has no dynamic stretch it could cause injury or even death if someone took a leader fall on it -- rope has to stretch to absorb shock and ease the deceleration of the climber. Not sure what you mean by "everyday rope" -- if you mean rope you get from hardware stores, that has neither the stretch capabilities nor the dynamic load ratings of climbing rope. It is deadly to use non-climbing ropes for any kind of climbing or rappelling. Just because a rope says it can hold 200 lbs and you weigh 150 lbs doesn't mean it will hold you. When you fall you generate many times more than your dead weight of force. A 150 lb person falling 20 feet can create over a half ton of impact on the rope. Hardware store rope should never be used for climbing, even on an indoor climbing wall. A non-dry climbing rope can be either goldline (regular "laid" rope that looks like the old tan ropes used to climb on in gym class) or it can be perlon (the generic term for the smooth braided sheath rope that looks like oversized round shoelaces). Both have the capability to stretch under dynamic load and hold the 1000's of pounds of force a falling body creates. Dry rope (which is all perlon) had a sheath treated to keep water from penetrating to the fibers inside. Being wet reduces a ropes strength somewhat and makes it more difficult to handle, so the extra price may be worth the cost to many climbers, depending on the conditions they climb in. A climber who mostly goes out in the desert Southwest would be less likely to need dry rope than somebody who did ice climbing or climbed in the rainy Pacific Northwest. Other factors are rope size -- some Europeans climb using a "double rope" system with two parallel 9mm lines. This can also be used for glacier travel safety lines where there are not abrupt falls. But most climbing ropes are used singly and should be 10mm, 10.5 mm or 11 mm in diameter. If you are planning to buy a rope, I would recommend going to a climbing shop with a trusted friend who is an experienced climber to select the one that is right for your use. Then learn how to properly care for the rope (storage, washing, keeping track of stresses like leader falls.) Ropes eventually need to be retired for safety after a certain amount of use.

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1) Since you dont know what you are looking for and the differences between different kinds of ropes, I would suggest finding an experienced climber(s) in your area that can take you under their wing and teach you what you need to know. Reading about climbing and asking questions online will not get you very far. Talk to the staff at the gym you are climbing at about climbing clubs in your area. They are usually the best way to learn without taking a class or hiring a guide. 2) Now to answer your question. Go here: http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/learn/ropes.html It is a great resource for learning about the different kinds of climbing ropes. Notice I said climbing rope. You should NEVER use any rope, except a climbing rope for climbing. Non-climbing ropes are not designed, nor tested for climbing purposes. Using anything else you are asking for a quick death. You can also do a google search for: different types of climbing ropes for plenty of resources online that explains the difference. Good luck

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Static rope doesn't stretch at all. So it is ONLY suitable for rappelling or for short top roped climbs, like you would have on a climbing wall. Since it has no dynamic stretch it could cause injury or even death if someone took a leader fall on it -- rope has to stretch to absorb shock and ease the deceleration of the climber. Not sure what you mean by "everyday rope" -- if you mean rope you get from hardware stores, that has neither the stretch capabilities nor the dynamic load ratings of climbing rope. It is deadly to use non-climbing ropes for any kind of climbing or rappelling. Just because a rope says it can hold 200 lbs and you weigh 150 lbs doesn't mean it will hold you. When you fall you generate many times more than your dead weight of force. A 150 lb person falling 20 feet can create over a half ton of impact on the rope. Hardware store rope should never be used for climbing, even on an indoor climbing wall. A non-dry climbing rope can be either goldline (regular "laid" rope that looks like the old tan ropes used to climb on in gym class) or it can be perlon (the generic term for the smooth braided sheath rope that looks like oversized round shoelaces). Both have the capability to stretch under dynamic load and hold the 1000's of pounds of force a falling body creates. Dry rope (which is all perlon) had a sheath treated to keep water from penetrating to the fibers inside. Being wet reduces a ropes strength somewhat and makes it more difficult to handle, so the extra price may be worth the cost to many climbers, depending on the conditions they climb in. A climber who mostly goes out in the desert Southwest would be less likely to need dry rope than somebody who did ice climbing or climbed in the rainy Pacific Northwest. Other factors are rope size -- some Europeans climb using a "double rope" system with two parallel 9mm lines. This can also be used for glacier travel safety lines where there are not abrupt falls. But most climbing ropes are used singly and should be 10mm, 10.5 mm or 11 mm in diameter. If you are planning to buy a rope, I would recommend going to a climbing shop with a trusted friend who is an experienced climber to select the one that is right for your use. Then learn how to properly care for the rope (storage, washing, keeping track of stresses like leader falls.) Ropes eventually need to be retired for safety after a certain amount of use.

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1) Since you dont know what you are looking for and the differences between different kinds of ropes, I would suggest finding an experienced climber(s) in your area that can take you under their wing and teach you what you need to know. Reading about climbing and asking questions online will not get you very far. Talk to the staff at the gym you are climbing at about climbing clubs in your area. They are usually the best way to learn without taking a class or hiring a guide. 2) Now to answer your question. Go here: http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/learn/ropes.html It is a great resource for learning about the different kinds of climbing ropes. Notice I said climbing rope. You should NEVER use any rope, except a climbing rope for climbing. Non-climbing ropes are not designed, nor tested for climbing purposes. Using anything else you are asking for a quick death. You can also do a google search for: different types of climbing ropes for plenty of resources online that explains the difference. Good luck

isu_trickster

I'm afraid I don't know this stuff from any source, but this is what I've read or heard somewhere over the years. Bear with me. Mountaineering (Alpinism) as we know it now was first done in the Alps by all the countries that have Alps. So mainly France. This was done way back before technical rock climbing, but obviously it did involve some climbing. Now, us Brits and the Germans don't really have any mountains. Sure we have Scotland, and the Germans are close to the Alps (Schwarzwald is looked down upon by the Jungfrau massif), but nothing as good as what the French et al have. So we started doing rock climbing at crags instead of up high in the mountains. This was first done by nutters in hobnail boots and hemp rope, using chock stones to 'protect' falls, and occasionally bashing pitons into the rock to clip onto. Eventually technology progressed so that better gear and ropes were used for protection, and climbing shoes started to evolve. Once trad(itional) climbing was developed in this way, people thought it'd be a good idea to start bolting routes to make them safer / easier, and sport climbing was born. From this premise, I guess, indoor climbing centres came. Well that's what I think the history of rock climbing is, there may be some guess work or lots of inaccuracy but it might be a starting point for you! Mountaineering and rock climbing are synonymous because you need to be a good rock climber in order to do mountaineering. It's only when it started becoming more popular that rock climbing started evolving as a sport in its own right.

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