In an art you can do whatever anything according to principles but what about sports?

I believe I know what you are trying to do, but everyone will not understand. Some do not wish to understand. Others like you are seeking knowledge. A principle is a rule. In tma there are no rules to prevent us from doing certain things. In mma. karate tournaments, TKD tournaments, bjj, etc there are rules in those sporting events. This does limit what can be done. Now in order to be what they like to call more well rounded they have to seek help from a different style because they are missing pieces that were originally part of the original art form/style. But they walk around with blinders on and remain ignorant. Being ignorant is not an insult. It simply means lack of knowledge. We tend to criticize things we don't know are understand. That's the bickering. Instead we should study. There is a wealth of knowledge out there other than google, utube and wikipedia. Now I'm a little lost on the mentioning of artistic. Yes it is an art. It is cultural. But it is not about being creative so to speak. It is still based upon a set of principles on how the body moves. It can only move in so many directions or it will hurt. Edit: Odee I think you are missing part of the point. It's either that are you are purposely ignoring the point. No one is saying sports are bad. I believe most of us have participate in one way or another. It is just that sports puts limitations based upon the rules of that sport. Today boxing placed the limitation of only using a few types of punches. Muay thai doesn't allow throws or techniques from other arts. MMA doesn't allow small joint manipulation, groin strikes. When you train under those set of rules it is incomplete. To do one of the other sports you have to train for a different set of rules. What you do in the ring/cage, etc is different than what you can do or have done on the street are different. When I trained briefly to box if I got into a fight I would only use what I had been taught in boxing. I never would have imagine to do a wrist lock. I had no idea on how to do it.If somebody put me in a headlock I had no idea on how to easily escape. I would have struggled trying to escape. But because of my current training it is fairly easy to escape if you could put it on me.

whats up with all the mma bullying? :P you basically have asked this same question lots of times just wordered differently, just sayin. and while i know your not picking directly on mma, but all the questions on it to some people probably feels like your picking on mma. Edit- I do agree with what your saying, but it's kind of like, mma has none of teh principles, tma rocks, kinda just how I see it, but i do understand what your trying to do, and i commend you for it, but at the same time, the ignorant people unfortunately aren't gonna learn, they are usually set in their ways. :(

"I am just saying I think people need more education and less bickering." I think this question, and questions along these lines have the opposite effect

whats up with all the mma bullying? :P you basically have asked this same question lots of times just wordered differently, just sayin. and while i know your not picking directly on mma, but all the questions on it to some people probably feels like your picking on mma. Edit- I do agree with what your saying, but it's kind of like, mma has none of teh principles, tma rocks, kinda just how I see it, but i do understand what your trying to do, and i commend you for it, but at the same time, the ignorant people unfortunately aren't gonna learn, they are usually set in their ways. :(

"I am just saying I think people need more education and less bickering." I think this question, and questions along these lines have the opposite effect

Principles are as true for sports as it is for self defense or battlefield applications. The difference is that it won't look the same. But principles have nothing to do with "looks". EDIT: It's illegal for boxers to kick or use elbows. So it is expected they say kicking has no place in boxing. That's just a world view limitation. You are never going to learn original boxing, the only ones available are the sport. You would have to create your own style to bring back the old form of boxing or any other Western European martial art. A cup is not total protection of the groin or balls. A cup just distributes damage. I can still kick someone in the groin, and damage the internal nerves and organs of their lower body. Soccer players that did a full kick and missed the ball and hit someone in the groin, have done something similar. Running at top speed I remind you. Body weight.

Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Judo and Brazilian Jujitsu often get a bit plagued as sports but I can assure you that you can get hospitalized by accident in each of them. I wouldn't say you have to make recreate the self defense applications. If you were a Boxer and you got accidentally punched in the throat I'm willing to bet your mind wouldn't just delete it as "illegal", it would most likely store it as "illegal for a damn good reason" and you'd work on not leaving it so open next time, the same goes with the sneaky low kick, the foot stomp and the ever present knee. I've been kneed in the nuts once in all the competitions, tournaments and matches that I've been in, the cup protected me to some degree but pinched and that hurt almost as bad as the shot would have without the cup. Since then I've never worn the cup, I've protected my crotch. I bet Evander Holyfield is careful where he sticks his ears since Tyson got hungry on him. Judoka put extra strength into some of their throws to prevent breaking an opponent's neck, I imagine that if you put an opponent in hospital for neck injuries you'd file that in "illegal for a damn good reason" too. Experience imprints much more firmly than practice. The same works back the other way. If an athlete recognizes that he's in a self preservation situation he's going to double click that "illegal for a damn good reason" file and bring out everything he knows from it. @Butthurt. I'm all of those things and worse but I'm still a better human being than you'll ever be. Pfft. I'm already ugly. Even if you do manage to fluke out and smash my face it won't matter worth spit.

don't ask here bro these goofs are dumb as f**k. everyone knows boxers cant kick because they are just too dumb to apply their principles lol even a kickboxer can open their hand up when they punch and do a spear hand but athletes are the dumbest people on the planet lol joe rogan and mike tyson are athletes and fine examples lol now for the dance.. ldfvodskdskgdssdok[spkgfo kgk g g[ ewkfo F GWRl l gk

Principles are as true for sports as it is for self defense or battlefield applications. The difference is that it won't look the same. But principles have nothing to do with "looks". EDIT: It's illegal for boxers to kick or use elbows. So it is expected they say kicking has no place in boxing. That's just a world view limitation. You are never going to learn original boxing, the only ones available are the sport. You would have to create your own style to bring back the old form of boxing or any other Western European martial art. A cup is not total protection of the groin or balls. A cup just distributes damage. I can still kick someone in the groin, and damage the internal nerves and organs of their lower body. Soccer players that did a full kick and missed the ball and hit someone in the groin, have done something similar. Running at top speed I remind you. Body weight.