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What do you think of somebody who has been a karate brown belt for over 10 years, keeps training at that level?

  • i spoke to a guy recently who told me hes been training in karate shotokan for over 14 years and loves it. and hes been a brown belt for 10 years ? i asked him why he hasnt went for his black belt ? and he said whats the colour of the belt got to do with my martial arts training and experience ? i dont get it. a guy with a brown belt for 10 years and never went for the black belt ? what reason could there possibly be other than hes not good enough for black belt ? what do you think of this guy ? thanks

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    If your buddy is for real, then he is the type of student I'd like to have. I have known several guys that were brown belts for 10-15 years. They were all excellent. They made a lot of black belts look bad. They understood that it is their ability that matters, not the color of the cloth belt they happen to wear. One of these brown belts liked staying at brown belt because he said others expected less from him. Yet he could still do what he could do no matter what others thought. We need more martial artists that think that way. Way to many of us tend to be too concerned with what color our belt is and what others may think about us. NOTE: something happened to me years ago. I might handle it better now than i did. A guy was acting like he was going to try me out. He asked what rank I held. I should not have said, but was younger and more foolish then. After I told him he asked me if I had credentials I could show him...... My reply was, "If you attack me, I'll give you all the credentials you'll ever want to see". Needless to say that was a bad way to handle the situation. But we did not end up fighting. ...

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If your buddy is for real, then he is the type of student I'd like to have. I have known several guys that were brown belts for 10-15 years. They were all excellent. They made a lot of black belts look bad. They understood that it is their ability that matters, not the color of the cloth belt they happen to wear. One of these brown belts liked staying at brown belt because he said others expected less from him. Yet he could still do what he could do no matter what others thought. We need more martial artists that think that way. Way to many of us tend to be too concerned with what color our belt is and what others may think about us. NOTE: something happened to me years ago. I might handle it better now than i did. A guy was acting like he was going to try me out. He asked what rank I held. I should not have said, but was younger and more foolish then. After I told him he asked me if I had credentials I could show him...... My reply was, "If you attack me, I'll give you all the credentials you'll ever want to see". Needless to say that was a bad way to handle the situation. But we did not end up fighting. ...

pugpaws2

The reason to train in martial arts is not to get a belt, but to learn. This guy gets it.

Frank the tank

The reason to train in martial arts is not to get a belt, but to learn. This guy gets it.

Frank the tank

One of my students and very good friends was a white belt for almost 20 years. He knew all the requirements and had the skill to be a second dan in Kajukenbo, he just never tested. I would rather have him at my back than just about anyone else I have trained with.

Karate Dave

I think you have found a brown-belt that has figured it out! The belt is nothing! The skills increase. You should speak more to this guy, he has figured something out that many, including yourself have not yet learned. I think he is wise indeed for a mere brown belt!

Jim R

I think you have found a brown-belt that has figured it out! The belt is nothing! The skills increase. You should speak more to this guy, he has figured something out that many, including yourself have not yet learned. I think he is wise indeed for a mere brown belt!

Jim R

One of my students and very good friends was a white belt for almost 20 years. He knew all the requirements and had the skill to be a second dan in Kajukenbo, he just never tested. I would rather have him at my back than just about anyone else I have trained with.

Karate Dave

sounds like the way one of my sensei's runs his class, he holds test once ever few years. he has had some students since the mid 90's and his highest rank in that class is 3rd kyu brown belt. he pushes his students to the limit. it doesn't matter your rank it matters what you can do. many places now a days hand out belts like candy. people don't earn ranks they are given to them. i know people that have been training longer then me and there still a white belt, they don't care about the rank, they just want to train, and he trains harder then many black belts train.

Kokoro

sounds like the way one of my sensei's runs his class, he holds test once ever few years. he has had some students since the mid 90's and his highest rank in that class is 3rd kyu brown belt. he pushes his students to the limit. it doesn't matter your rank it matters what you can do. many places now a days hand out belts like candy. people don't earn ranks they are given to them. i know people that have been training longer then me and there still a white belt, they don't care about the rank, they just want to train, and he trains harder then many black belts train.

Kokoro

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