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The Music called "DUB" I want/need some on 12 inch Vinal. For clouseau-ga only!

• Good Afternoon clouseau. My son is now requesting I purchase for him a collection of what he refers to as "DUB" music. Strictly dub...and only dub he wants! Apparently it emanates from this genreal area of Jamaica. To make matters a little more challenging for you clouseau-ga he want this "Dub-Music" only on 12 inch vinal records. You know the ones I/we(?) threw away by the hundreds in the sixties. The young ones, or at least my lad has gone "crazY' over them. (Thanks by the way for the Spell Check reference..just thought of it. Have not had the chance to check that out yet ...but I will) I digress! Now firstly I need the names of these Dub Musicians and/or the titles of their records. And as I say they must only be on 12 inch vinal records. To give you a starting reference I have located one producer of these records (they make them brand new) here in Kingston. They are called "Sonic Records" here in Kingston. Probelm is I have trouble communicating with these "hip" young Island Lads. I cant understand a word they say (hardly). They really need for me to tell them the artists I want etc etc. Hopefully with your assistance clouseau I will be able to do that. There must be other producers of these vinal records as well as sonic (I imagine). Next week I shall be driving all around the entire Island. By the way I lost this note once and then remembered I had my "MetaPad" which I have been using all the time, and in fact right now. Now my question is three (3) fold : 1. Where do I find a good definition of "Dub" Music. 2. Where do I find a good list of Dub Titles and or Dub Artists. 3. More importantly where do I find more wholesalers of Vinal Records (like Sonic) that have stocks of 12inch vinal (dub) records in stock. (Can be anywhere in the world but Jamaica would be a good start.) Note the required quantity my son wants is (believe it or not 1,001) Yes that's one thousand and one. A bit like his father ..........slightly eccentric! In due course he intends to put transpose these to CD or professional tape; and keep the 12 inch vinals as his "Masters" and for his "collection". He is going to save these vinals rather much like I used to save postage stamps as a kid. Ah well I say, "the kid could be doing worse (these days)." That's it over to you for now. And kind regards from: Roger

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  Hello Roger, A most interesting search! I hope the information below will help to build an impressive collection for your son. And do have him keep any "live" Cuban cigars away from the turntable or you will soon be seeking a record cleaning machine! http://www.keithmonks-rcm.co.uk/ On to your current questions: 1. Where do I find a good definition of "Dub" Music? http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Meadow/8887/dub/ A Brief History of Dub "The word 'dub' today is used to describe a genre of music that consists predominantly of instrumental re-mixes of existing recordings. These re-mixes radically manipulated and reshape the recording(through the use of sound effects). The production and mixing process is not used just to replicate the live performance of the recording artist, but audio effects and studio 'trickery' are seen as an integral part of the music. The roots of 'dub' can be traced back to Jamaica in the late 1960s, where it is widely accepted that Osbourne Ruddock pioneered the style(1). Ruddock turned the mixing desk into an instrument, with the Deejay or mixer playing the role of the artist or performer. These early 'Dub' examples can be looked upon as the prelude to many dance and pop music genres(2)... ...Young Jamaicans during the early sixties had been drawn to the major cities in search of work. They had not found it, and the mood of the ghetto areas had started to deteriorate. These youths or 'Rude boys' as they were called, started forming into political gangs from different ghetto's throughout Kingston. 'Rude boys connected with the so-called 'underworld', a layer of people who lived outside the law, and who had always patronized Jamaican dance music'(8). The 'Rude boys' connection with the dance halls, as well as their style of dancing (which was slower and more menacing) changed the style of music being played from the more up tempo Ska(9) to the slower Rock Steady beat(10) . While many producers(11) have claimed to have pioneered the 'Rock Steady' groove it was Duke Reid who capitalized on it, recording and releasing several tunes by a variety of performers in this new style... This is a rather complete article with an in depth history of this music genre. You will enjoy the read, Roger. A few of the recommendations from this article include: "King Tubby, 1994, Dub gone Crazy(The Evolution of Dub), Blood and Fire. Lee 'Scratch' Perry and King Tubby, 1974,Blackboard Jungle, Upsetter. Compilation, 1975, The Roots of Dub, Grounation. Lee 'Scratch' Perry, 1975, Revolution Dub, Cactus . Massive Attack vs Mad Professor, 19??, No Protection, Wild Bunch..." I shall locate more discography for you shortly. A site called "The Interrupter" Has a discussion board and asks for recommendations for the best of the best by aficionados: http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discus/messages/2/9.html?989885026 "Imagine: A friend who is new to Dub music asks you which tunes he should listen to as an introduction. Which tracks would you suggest?... Prowling Lion "Disciples" In fact almost everything by Disciples Mad Professor "Your rights / My rights" from - Dub My Cracy "1" - 1982 ARIWA I'd say essential tracks are: Disciples "Prowling Lion" (already mentioned) Dub Creator "Dub 303" (or "System Dub") Jah Warrior "Spiral Echos" King Tubby (no matter which song of him) Dub Syndicate "2001 Love (Iration Steppas Remix)" one of the old Zion Train tracks Mad Professor "Katmandu Dub" Creation Rebel "The Dope" There are numerous posts with members favorites here. I spent some time at their discussion boards and learned you just missed Lee Scratch Perry performing in Dublin on St Patrick's Day. He even appears in an ad for Guinness. http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discus/messages/2/121.html?1049552654 I posted on their board seeking their recommendations. 2. Where do I find a good list of Dub Titles and or Dub Artists? ********************************************************** Most Famous DUB artists: Osbourne Ruddock (better known as King Tubby) There is an excellent history of King Tubby at this site: Steve Barrow http://www.furious.com/perfect/kingtubby2.html "...ED NOTE: these excerpted notes come from the excellent compilation Dub Gone Crazy on Blood & Fire which was also compiled by Steve Barrow. Today the remix and dub version are commonplace in popular music; less widely appreciated is the fact that these techniques were pioneered in a tiny studio at 18 Bromilly Avenue in the Kingston district called Waterhouse. That pioneer of dub was an electronics engineer and sound system operator named Osbourne Ruddock, but to the crowds who flocked to his dances, and the countless singers and record producers who utilised his skills, he was known as King Tubby.... And here: http://www.furious.com/perfect/kingtubby.html King Tubby An Influence on Practically More Genres Than Anyone Else Except Perhaps Elvis Presley by Paul Dickow (June 1997) Lee 'Scratch' Perry (or Rainford Hugh Perry) http://entertainment.msn.com/Artist/?artist=123341 "Some call him a genius, others claim he's certifiably insane, a madman. Truth is, he's both, but more importantly, Lee Perry is a towering figure in reggae -- a producer, mixologist, and songwriter that, along with King Tubby, helped shape the sound of dub, and made reggae music such a powerful part of the pop music world. Along with producing some of the most influential acts (Bob Marley and the Wailers ..." Augustus Pablo http://www.reggae-vibes.com/concert/augpablo/augpablo.htm "After the tragic passings of Prince Lincoln and Roland Alphonso earlier this year the reggae world has lost another great artist. Born 1954, St. Andrew, Jamaica, Horace Swaby aka Augustus Pablo, often in ill health, not only was responsible for putting the melodica on the musical map, but he also played a key role in the musical history of Jamaica. In his role as musician and producer he has helped to shape reggae so much that his music can easily be described as 'the sound of the Seventies'. The legend began in 1969 when a youthful Horace Swaby was standing in Herman Chin-Loy's 'Aquarius' record shop at 9 Constant Spring Road in Kingston, holding a melodica that had been lent to him by a young girl. The instrument was used in Jamaica in school music lessons but had never before been taken seriously by professional musicians. Herman Chin-Loy, who had a much-deserved reputation for experimenting with new sounds, asked the slightly-built teenager if he could play it and was so taken with the musical response that he booked recording time that same week at Randy's Studio 17 on North Parade in the heart of downtown Kingston. With a tune entitled "Iggy Iggy" Herman Chin-Loy gave the youth his recording debut and more significantly, a new name - AUGUSTUS PABLO - which was not strictly new itself as for the past few months Aquarius record labels had sporadically appeared bearing the credit Augustus Pablo..." Aba Shanti-I http://www.falasha-recordings.co.uk/profiles/ABAPRO.html "As mentioned in the 'WHO'S WHO' page, Aba used to deejay 'Jah Tubby's' sound system and at that time he was known as 'Jasmine Joe'. Those of you that were around the sound system scene in the eighties will remember the slightly extrovert mic man that 'Jah Tubby's' had; that was Aba. When Joe embraced the Rastafarian faith he adopted a new and more positive attitude and with his rediscovered faith a new name. That name was and is 'Aba Shanti-I',pronounced ABA SHANTI-EYE not ONE. So you see the name 'Aba Shanti-I' is not just the name of the sound system, it is the name of the person that is playing the sound..." Scientist http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1392/Scientist.html Hopeton "Overton" Brown (Scientist) "Second generation Jamaican dub mixer and a rival to Prince Jammy. Notable for his theme albums (with lurid cover art) on which he would meet and vanquish protagonists from off-world regions: ie Scientist Meets The Space Invaders, Scientist Encounters Pac Man. Such meetings, derived from the rivalry of the sound clash, are central to the mythology of dub. For origins, seek out King Tubby Meets The Upsetter At The Grass Roots Of Dub..." Prince Jammy http://www.theiceberg.com/artist/26620/king_jammy/ "Biography b. Lloyd James, Kingston, Jamaica, West Indies. Jammy, the undisputed king of computerized, digital reggae music for the 80s, was interested in little else but the sound system business from a very early age. He began by building amplifiers and repairing electrical equipment from his mother's house in the Waterhouse area of downtown Kingston, and was soon playing live with his own sound system. His prowess earned him a deserved local reputation and as Prince Jammy, he built equipment for many Waterhouse sounds. He was even acknowledged by the legendary King Tubby, another Waterhouse resident, with whom Jammy often worked. In the early 70s Jammy left Jamaica to work in Canada, where his reputation had preceded him, and he was soon working in live stage shows, and employed in various studio activities and sound system work. He stayed for a few years but returned to Kingston and set up his first studio (with extremely limited facilities) at his in-laws' home in Waterhouse..." Prince Philip Smart http://www.livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101-20.htm "...Tubby trained many disciples who were to become major contributors to the dub music culture. Prince Philip Smart came to the United States and founded the HCF reggae studio on Long Island. Lloyd James, aka King Jammy, started his own label, Imprint, and supplanted Tubby as the top Jamaican producer in the mid-eighties. Producer and vocalist "Yabby You" Jackson and Overton "Scientist" Brown were also Tubby pupils. And U-Roy, who was a DJ for Tubby, influenced Clive Campbell who was to go on to the Bronx, set up his own sound system, and become Kool Herc..." The Mad Professor http://www.emusic.com/artist/10563/10563920.html "Born in the Fifties, the Mad Professor (Neil Fraser) started his career in music from the technical side as a service engineer for mixing desks and amplifiers. The name Mad Professor, was first given by friends at school who were amazed by the experiments he was carrying out as a youth. By the turn of the Eighties, Mad Professor launched the ARIWA label. It was about this time he launched the now legendary Dub Me Crazy series, which was started in Gautrey Road - Peckham..." Jah Warrior http://www.jahwarrior.freeuk.com/ivshaka.htm "Interview with - Jah Shaka Here is an interview conducted by Steve Mosco with the legendary Jah Shaka in 1984. Q. How long has the sound been going? A. Since 1970. Q. When you started the sound, was it your intention for it to be the same way it is now - a rasta dub sound? A. Yes, it was always a dub sound. The sound came out of the struggle in the 70’s which black people were going through in this country - we got together and decided that the sound should play a main part in black people’s rights & we would work hard at it & promote some better mental purpose within the black race..." The Disciples http://www.kemptown.co.uk/freerad/russd.htm "...1993 turned out to be an important year as it saw The Disciples release their first self financed 12" single entitled ‘Prowling Lion’ on their own Boom-Shacka-Lacka imprint. Prowling Lion proved very popular with its success ensuring further 10",12" and album releases. Boom Shacka Lacka was also to be the christened name of their phenomenal sound system which ran for the best part of six years. By `97 however The Disciples had packed up their boxes and amps to concentrate more on their studio works. Russ D has continued to DJ at clubs on other sounds working with long time friend Jonah Dan, playing sessions in Italy, Israel, Ireland, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Poland, Holland and more. 1997 was also the year that saw the first releases on a new Disciples imprint `Backyard Movements`, with its inclination towards a more orthodox and contemporary reggae sound..." Adrian Sherwood http://www.jahsonic.com/AdrianSherwood.html "Adrian Sherwood 1958 - today When British producer Adrian Sherwood started his On-U-Sound label in 1980 as an outlet for scruffy punks and righteous rastas infatuated with reggae and its experimental spectrum of dub, he just wanted to make good records. In the process, he influenced a legion of producers, decimated the boundaries of funk, noise, and reggae, and as a member of Tackhead, made the position of the live mixing engineer a viable band member in terms of creative input..." Of course, there are many other artists that may be of interest. ********************************************************** Recommended DUB tracks: "King Tubby, 1994, Dub gone Crazy(The Evolution of Dub), Blood and Fire. As a matter of fact, ANYTHING by King Tubby including: 100 Of Dub: Select Cuts 2003 Dub Forever 2002 Dub Conference 2002 The Originator 2002 The Dub Master vol. 1 (Orange Street) 2002 In The Mix 2001 From The Palace Of Dub: Essential Smokin' Dub... 2001 Majestic Dub 2001 Foundation Of Dub 2001 Essential Dub 2000 King Dub: The Best Of King Tubby 2000 Fatman Tapes Vol. 2 2000 The Fatman Tapes 2000 The Dub Master Vol. 1 (Culture Press) 2000 The Sound Of Channel One: King Tubby Connection 1999 King Tubby's Hidden Treasures 1999 Dub Like Dirt (1975-1977) 1999 Dub From The Roots 1998 Megawatt Dub 1997 Dangerous Dub 1996 Meets Scientist At Dub Station 1996 Meets Scientist In A World Of Dub 1996 Dub Gone 2 Crazy 1996 Dub Explosion: 22 Roots Classics 1996 Freedom Sounds In Dub 1996 Greenwich Farm Rub-A-Dub 1996 Roots Dub 1995 Yah Congo Meets King Tubby & Professor At... 1995 Dub Gone Crazy 1995 Creation Dub 1995 Shining Dub 1994 King Tubby's Special 1973-1976 1989 Roots & Society - Reggae's Best 1978 Scientist Discography: 1 (1997) At Channel One Studio 2 (1997) Strike Back 3 (1996) Dub in the Roots Tradition 4 (1996) Meets Roots Radics: Dubbing with Horns 5 (1995) Scientific Dub 6 (1990) Scientist Rids the World of the Curse of the Evil Vampires 7 (1990) Tribute to King Tubby Dub 8 (1984) Crucial Cuts 9 (1983) High Priest of Dub 10 (1982) Scientist Encounters Pac-Man 11 (1981) Scientist Meets the Space Invaders 12 (1981) Scientist Wins the World Cup 13 (1981) Scientist in the Kingdom 14 (1980) Big Showdown 15 (1980) Heavyweight Dub Champion 16 (1980) Scientist Vs. Prince Jammy 17 (..) 1999 Dub 18 (..) Kingdom of Dub Lee 'Scratch' Perry Lee 'Scratch' Perry and King Tubby, 1974,Blackboard Jungle, Upsetter. Lee 'Scratch' Perry, 1975, Revolution Dub, Cactus . And here is a list of some known 12" vinyl for Perry in the Netherlands: http://home.wanadoo.nl/jamaicanart/p17a.htm And one more at Live Daily: http://www.livedaily.citysearch.com/artist/discography.html?id=1072 Augustus Pablo A partial discography can be found here: http://digilander.libero.it/zapatelli/new/discography/albums3.html And another lists of his recommended albums here: http://www.irielion.com/irie/augustus_pablo.html Aba Shanti-I Discography: http://www.dubclub.nl/shanti/discography/discography.htm Jah Warrior http://www.jahwarrior.com/ Click on Vinyl Albums Jah Warrior "Spiral Echos" Recommended The Mad Professor Discography recommendations: http://www.irielion.com/irie/mad_professor.html Mad Professor "Your rights / My rights" from - Dub My Cracy "1" - 1982 ARIWA Massive Attack vs Mad Professor, 19??, No Protection, Wild Bunch..." Mad Professor "Katmandu Dub" The Disciples Discography: 1987 - Deliverance; Commandments of dub chapter 6 ~ Jah Shaka King of the Zulu Tribe 1989 - The Disciples ~ Jah Shaka King of the Zulu Tribe 1991 - Addis Ababa; The Disciples chapter 2 ~ Jah Shaka King of the Zulu Tribe 1993 - The Lion; The Disciples chapter 3 ~ Jah Shaka King of the Zulu Tribe 1993 - Storm Clouds;Dayjah meets The Disciples ~ Third Eye Music 1994 - Hail HIM; Sister Rasheda ~ Roots Records 1995 - Resonations ~ Cloak & Dagger 1995 - Hail HIM in Dub ~ Roots Records 1995 - For Those Who Understand ~ Boom-Shacka-Lacka 1996 - Infinite Density Of Dub ~ Dubhead 1997 - Urban Jungle; Dayjah meets The Disciples ~ Third Eye Music 1997 - Rebirth; Rootsman meets The Disciples ~ Third Eye Music (*) 1998 - Spangdubulous Dub: Jonah Dan buck up pon Disciples ~ Inner Sanctuary (CD only) 1998 - Sacred Art Of Dub: Alpha & Omega meets the Disciples ~ Greensleeves (CD only) 1999 - Love, Faith & Belief: Wayne McArthur ~ Moonwave Music 2000 - Revelation Time; Clive `Colour Red` Hylton ~ Jetstar / Charm 2001 - Lion King; Tony Roots ~ Jet Star / Charm (CD only) 2001 - Backyard Movements Dubwise 2001 ~ Backyard Movements 2001 - Cry Freedom; Delroy Dyer and Disciples ~ African Crusader (CD only) 2002 - One Bright Day; Prince Allah ~ Backyard Movements 2003 - Gift Of Life; Tont Roots ~ Jetstar / Charm Various: Compilation, 1975, The Roots of Dub, Grounation. Prowling Lion "Disciples" Dub Creator "Dub 303" (or "System Dub") Dub Syndicate "2001 Love (Iration Steppas Remix)" Creation Rebel "The Dope" One site provides this list of best Dub of all time: http://www.scaruffi.com/music/dub.html Lee Perry: Revolution Dub (1975) Scientist: Heavyweight Dub Champion (1980) Burning Spear: Garvey's Ghost (1976) Augustus Pablo: East of the River Nile (1977) King Tubby: Blackboard Jungle (1973) or Meets Rockers Uptown (1976) Mad Professor: Beyond the Realms Of Dub (1982) African Head Charge: In Pursuit of Shashamane Land (1994) Twilight Circus: In Dub Vol 1 (M Records, 1995) Automaton: Dub Terror Exhaust (Strata, 1994) Kit Clayton: Nek Sanalet (Scape, 1999) 3. More importantly where do I find more wholesalers of Vinal Records? ********************************************************** Let's start with known retailers with selections in vinyl: DUB Record Companies: (Vinyl may be the problem here, Roger. Most list CD's. I have sent inquiries as noted.) (from dub.com) Echo Beach - Great Site http://www.echobeach.de/ A German company. Email sent to see if they wholesale. Dub Style - Select Cuts - The Label http://www.dub-style.de/index2.html Another German site, but here some titles ARE available on vinyl. Trojan Records http://www.trojan-records.com/ A Uk supplier witha selection of vinyl. Just check "vinyl" at their search box for a list of 137 titles. BSI Records http://www.bsi-records.com/store/ A Portland USA company with what appear to be some rare finds in vinyl such as: KING TUBBY / AUGUSTUS PABLO KING TUBBY MEETS ROCKERS UPTOWN CLOCKTOWER 085 LP $10 info: Produced by Augustus Pablo, and mixed by Errol Thompson & King Tubby, this is probably the most crucial, recognizable, influential and straight up must-have dub album of all time. Nuff said - just own, listen & treasure! and: SCIENTIST VS. PRINCE JAMMY BIG SHOWDOWN GREENSLEEVES 010 LP $11 info: In this episode: Scientist and Prince Jammy alternate heavyweight tracks featuring rhythms from Barrington Levy's "Englishman" album. All of Scientist's early 80s albums for Greensleeves are all-time dub classics, showing him to be more than just King Tubby's most gifted disciple, but in a class by himself. Out of print on vinyl for years, Greensleeves has finally put these gems back on the market, a boon and a blessing to the dub afficionado. Scientist's All feature the rock-hard rhythms of the Roots Radics (later to transform into Dub Syndicate), immaculate production by Junjo Lawes, and priceless comic-style covers by the legendary Tony McDermott. All are absolutely indispensable. Look at the DUB listings bottom right on this site. Greensleeves Records http://hosted.greensleeves.easynet.co.uk/vinyl.html A great listing of vinyl including a selection of DUB and a mail order store. Tanty Records http://www.recordstore.co.uk/tanty/ Several vinyl dubs form this UK vendor. Motion Records http://www.motionrecords.com/shopping.html Good selection of vinyl LKJ Records http://www.net800.co.uk/netstart/lkjrecords/ Some DUB on vinyl. (Are you getting the idea that the UK may be the vinyl motherlode for DUB?) Different Drummer http://diffdrum.co.uk/releases/?PHPSESSID=83cf5a28d03cd999578de71e86265106 Some DUB on vinyl, but not much. Pressure Sounds http://www.pressure.co.uk/pressuresounds/catalogue/ Very good selection of DUB vinyl - and surprise, in the UK! Twilight Circus http://www.twilightcircus.com/discography/index.html Another collection on vinyl. Their distributors are listed on this page: http://www.twilightcircus.com/distribution/index.html Ariwa http://www.ariwa.com/ Some classics available here on vinyl! ARIWA SOUNDS LTD. 34 Whitehorse Lane South Norwood LONDON SE25 6RE Tel: +44 (0) 20 8653 7744 Fax: +44 (0) 20 8771 1911 e-mail: [email protected] Blood & Fire http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk/ An excellent selection, but very difficult to tell if they are CD's or vinyl. Click "discography". Site navigation is also very poor. But they do have some of the classics. Imperial Dub Records http://www.imperialdub.com/discography/index.html A good selection of vinyl. Ernie B's http://www.ebreggae.com/Home.asp Select vinyl and type in DUB for rhythm fo a selection of primarily 7" vinyl dub discs. Soundquake - Germany http://www.soundquake.com/ Turntable Lab http://www.turntablelab.com/index1.html Good Dub Slection in vinyl! Scroll down for dub in the left hand coumn and click for this section. The Dub Vendor http://www.dubvendor.co.uk/ Yet another UK site with good offerings. Jah Warrior Available for purchase online: http://www.jahwarrior.com/ Click on Vinyl Records Ok, I decided to search more specifically for Jamaica and for wholesalers, if available. Do note, wholesalers "usually" require multiple copies of a selection to buy wholesale, but with a large purchase they may wave that requirement. Searching: jamaica +"dub record" +vinyl OR label OR company OR wholesale, I found: The Carribean Yellow Pages listing these wholesalers of records in Jamaica: Anchor Recordings Co. Ltd. 7 Windsor Ave. (5) Jamaica - (876) 978-2711 Dynamic Sounds Recording Co. Ltd. 15 Bell Rd. (11) Jamaica - (876) 923-9138 Dynamic Sounds Recording Co. Ltd. 13 Bell Rd. (11) Jamaica - (876) 923-8824 G G Records Manufacturing Ltd. 1 Torrington Rd. Jamaica - (876) 922-7518 J R One Blood Recording Studio 1B Lindsay Crescent (10) Jamaica - (876) 931-0538 Life Productions Ltd. 107 Constant Spring Rd. (8) Jamaica - (876) 925-0524 Main Street Records Ltd. 85 Hagley Park Rd. (10) Jamaica - (876) 754-9980 Mixing Lab Record Distribution Ltd. 58 Dumbarton Ave. (10) Jamaica - (876) 929-0263 Sonic Sounds Record Manufacturing Co. Ltd. 25 Retirement Rd. (5) Jamaica - (876) 926-1204 Tappa International Records 42A Eastwood Park Rd. (10) Jamaica - (876) 960-7059 Other Jamaican Sources: One Love Jamaica Int'l Distributors Ltd. 16 College Crescent Kingston 20, Jamaica W.I. phone/fax: (876) 931-8756 [email protected] OJ36 Records http://www.oj36records.com/ Port Antonio Jamaica 876 7155946 ************************************************************** Additional Interesting Dub links: http://www.jahsonic.com/Dub.html History of Dub The mixing desk as an instrument and the DJ/remixer as an artist John McCready Dub.com - of course! http://dub.com/ Hug a Dub Sound System http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~pdurgin/hug/links.html Good collection of links, many mentioned above. Jah Acid Dub http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ZIEGLER_MATTHIEU/jad.htm Dub's Second Coming http://hotwired.wired.com/music/96/09/dub.html What dub are you listen to ? - the usenet dub survey - http://home.nordnet.fr/~jpmatton/pages/dub/dub.html#anchor332200 Whew! I think this should get you going, Roger :) At the very least, if you are unsuccessful finding a wholesaler in Jamaica, you will be able to build a healthy collection from the UK and European vendors listed above. As always, if you (or your son) need any clarification or additional research, do not hesitate to ask. And do enjoy your time with Bob Marley's mom and take a little time to listen to his music. He was a classic and important influence on world music. And alas, Google Answers powers that be prefer not to pass things along, so virtual the rum shall be. But no less enjoyed and thank you for the thought. Best regards, -=clouseau=-