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Behavior of Network (security problem), mainly concerning LinkSys BEFSR11

  • I know a little bit about networking, but I have a situation on my home network that puzzles me, and which presents a small but unacceptable security risk. This will be a rather long question (because I want to provide complete information to best assist a researcher). It's possible (and likely) that I'm raising some points that are totally irrelevant to my two goals (stated at the bottom of this question). If you know what's wrong with my setup and I raise irrelevant points, you need not bother to explain why those points are irrelevant. Just ignore them. I have a somewhat sophisticated home network, with seven client machines (Windoze NT and XP, and one kick-butt AIX client for variety), two Linux servers, and two Linksys broadband routers. My question will refer to my network diagram which you can find at http://www.users.qwest.net/~davidfilmer/home_network.jpg (this is a high-resolution image; it may not display well in a browser, but ought to be nice and clear if downloaded and viewed in an image viewer at a decent size). The diagram is accurate except that my upstream router is now a BEFSX41 instead of the BEFSR41 as shown. There is also a typo in the note adjacent to the BEFSR11; the IP address for port forwarding should read "172.22.1.100" (not 172.16.1.100). (The qwest.net server hosting the network diagram, btw, has nothing to do with my home network or my question.) The webserver (the machine at lower left corner of the diagram) is a hardened Mandrake 9.1 box running Apache 1.3x and is on its own private network (172.22.1.xxx), which is being NAT'ted through a Linksys BEFSR11 broadband router (this router is there only to do hardware NAT; it does not actually connect to the broadband connection - the upstream Linksys BEFSX41 does that). Both the WAN and LAN addresses of this router are hard-coded. This machine is a "real" webserver hosting a (very small, low traffic) public website for a charitable orginization. I use port forwarding (http/https on 80/443, plus SSH on 22) through the two Linksys devices to make this possible. This aspect is functioning - people can see my webserver (but I can't see it myself - more later)... The other server (near center page) is a stock RedHat 8.0 server for my internal network. This server can see the internet, but the internet cannot see it (that's the plan, anyway). And I firewall it (ipfilter), and it does masquerading and proxy serving and the whole thing. And it works great. The purpose of my network design is to isolate the webserver from the rest of my home network. If somebody cracks the webserver I don't want them getting anywhere else. The problem is that it's not working that way. From my webserver console, I can ping 10.11.1.1 (the upstream BEFSX41 broadband router) and 10.11.1.99 (my internal Redhat 8.0 Linux server). I can even SSH to the RedHat server. I can (from a browser) connect to and administer the BEFSX41 (the upstream Linksys device). I don't think that I should have any access to the 10.x.x.x network from that Mandrake webserver. That's the idea, anyway. From my RedHat internal server, I cannot ping 10.11.1.2 (the WAN side of the BEFSR11), and I cannot ping or SSH to the webserver (which is running sshd). So I can ping/ssh from the webserver to the RedHat server, but not from the RedHat server to the webserver (so the BEFSR11 seems to be properly blocking improper inbound traffic). OK that's not good. If somebody roots the webserver, they have visibility to my RedHat server, which could (potentially) give access to my entire network. I've got hyper-secret stuff on there (well, not really, but I don't want my stuff getting trashed or my machines being zombie'fied or anything). But it gets stranger (and much more annoying): My webserver is operating on the public IP address 12.231.186.??? which is forwarded through the two Linksys boxes (I'm masking the last octet of my public IP address in this posting - I'll provide it to a Google researcher via e-mail if requested). *YOU* could connect to that IP address just fine. However, *I* cannot connect to it from any machine on my home network (it times out). On my webserver, I can connect to http://localhost and it works fine. If I connect to http://172.22.1.1 then I see the admin panel for the BEFSR11 (as expected). HOWEVER, if I connect to http://10.11.1.2 (the WAN side of the BEFSR11, which I shouldn't even be able to see from the webserver) then I see... um, my webserver's own index.html (same as locally browsing to localhost). That's strange - it's like it's looping somehow. BTW, from the webserver, I am also unable to connect to the public IP address (http://12.231.186.???). On the BEFSR11 and BEFSX41, I have done *NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING* to the default configuration except to specify the LAN/WAN IP addresses and set port forwarding as specified on the network diagram (see typo note in second paragraph). I have no DMZ host (gads!), no static routes, no dynamic routing, nor ANY OTHER THING that's not default, except IP addresses and Port Forwarding. I've even done hardware resets to be SURE that I didn't do something strange. Both Linksys devices have up-to-date firmware ('1.44.2, Dec 13 2002' for the BEFSR11 and '41 - v1.44, Nov 22 2002' for the BEFSX41) The routing tables for the Linksys devices look like this: Routing table for befsr11: Dest Subnet Default Hop Interface LAN IP Mask Gateway Count ---------- ------------- --------- ----- --------- 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.11.1.1 1 WAN 10.11.1.0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 1 WAN 172.22.1.0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 1 LAN Routing Table for BEFSX41: Dest Subnet Default Hop Interface LAN IP Mask Gateway Count ---------- -------------- ------------ ----- --------- 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 12.231.186.1 1 WAN 10.11.1.0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 1 LAN 12.231.186.0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 1 WAN Here's `netstat -rn` on my Mandrake webserver (this ought not matter in any event, but here it is anyway): Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 172.22.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 172.22.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 I'm running a Shorewall firewall on the Mandrake webserver. However, it makes absolutely no difference if I disable the firewall completely (with `shorewall clear`). Something is bad-wrong with my setup. I have two objectives: 1) completely isolate the webserver from the rest of my network, such that even if a cracker rooted my webserver s/he could go no farther (no visibility to the private 10.x.x.x network). 2) enable any machine on my internal network to connect to the public IP address of the webserver (12.231.186.???). I want to go "out to the internet" and back in to accomplish this (ie, I don't want to set static routes across my Linksys devices). Can anyone assist me please in accomplishing my objectives??? Please feel free to post followup inquiries if I have not provided some detail(s). And don't worry about making me feel like an idiot by pointing out something very obvious and stupid that I've totally missed. Thanks!

  • Answer:

    Well, I got my head around it pretty quickly. You've got some fundamental problems with your network topology combined with the idiosynchrocies of the Linksys routers. So let's dive into the problems... First of all, and this is an aside, which doesn't answer your question, but it my personal opinion. I believe your solution is too paranoid. Your first line of defense is the initial router. If you only forward port 80 and 22 to the webserver, and you are running Apache and OpenSSH and keep up with the latest patches, the chances of that box being rooted is negligible. Especially since you can keep an eye on it. That being said, let's move on to how to solve the problem. A box can see everything in every subnet upstream from it. (Where upstream is towards the internet). While you can set it up to blind it, you have to do that explicitly, and it's just a better assumption that it can see everything, so let's look at your webserver. When you go one level upstream from it, you have two boxes in that subnet, the BEFSR11 and the Redhat box. In order to isolate the webserver, you want it to be UPSTREAM from the rest of your private network. That seems backwards, you would think to isolate it you want it as deep as possible, but that's not the case. Let's look at your problems and what is causing them. 1) Not being able to connect to the webserver from your private network. That threw me off guard for awhile, but then it occurred to me. The two levels of NAT are the problem. The request bubbles up to the WAN side of the BEFSX41 which sees a request coming from either 172.22.X.X or 192.168.X.X and either way, just views it as a request from an unroutable address, so it drops it, which is why it is timing out, rather than giving you a useful error. Disabling the "Block WAN Requests" feature on the Advanced page of the BEFSX41 might solve the problem, but I'm not sure (I have it disabled on mine). The best solution, in my opinion, would be to set up your redhat box as a DNS server, and then use split DNS, so when a request is made for the webserevr name from your private network, it sends it to 10.11.1.2 and it'll get forwarded to the webserver (with the given topology, which I'll talk about later). 2) Webserver weirdness. When you connect to http://localhost, that works since localhost turns into 127.0.0.1 and it never goes over the wire. http://172.22.1.1 connects to the admin page since the BEFSR11 is receiving the request from the _LAN_ side of the BEFSR11. When you connect to http://10.11.1.2, the request bubbles up to the _WAN_ side of your BEFSR11, which says, "Oh, I need to forward WAN side requests on port 80 to 172.22.1.100" which is why you see your website. But really, the topology needs to change. Looking at the diagram, the first thing I see that needs to be done is to move the BEFSR11 between the RedHat box and the BEFSX41. The webserver will have a 10.11.X.X IP, and the WAN address of the Redhat box will be the 172.22.1.100. The reasoning for this is that the BEFSR11 will be the firewall for your private network, and you don't care what happens on the other side of it. once you do that, you don't need to run NAT on the redhat box anymore, just it be another box on the same subnet as the rest of your machines. This will greatly simplify the network, and probably solve all of your problems. Let me know if that needs to be clarified more. I wish I could just draw a diagram in here. I'll start at the Internet, and go backwards Internet->Cable Modem->BEFSX41 Now, the BEFSX41 will have the webserver and the BEFSR11 hanging off of it. Your BEFSR11 will have the uplink port of the switch plugged into it's one port, and then plug all of the other machines, redhat box included, into the switch. The private network is completely isolated from the webserver (they have the BEFSR11 between them). This is the standard method for isolating webservers in networks. Hope this helps, lemme know if you need any clarification.

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