What would it mean for the "Higher Education Bubble" to burst?
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Some claim that there is a higher education bubble: And http://www.thepelicanpost.org/2011/04/19/higher-education-the-next-asset-bubble/ When the tech bubble burst, the stock markets tumbled towards fair market value and tech firms got into financial distress & failed forcing people into other fields. When the housing bubble burst, housing prices tumbled towards fair market value and more people rented. What does a higher education bubble bursting look like given that the market is much less liquid (prices set ~yearly not constantly; actors facing fewer substitute goods)?
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It would look a tiny bit like the real estate crash, if the real estate crash had ended with 25-50% of Americans happily living in tents and mobile homes and a few others in gigantic medieval castles. It would look more like one of the classic examples of disruptive innovation you learn about in business school. Traditional 4-year colleges are passenger railroads in 1900; 111 years later, the train still has its uses but most of us take cars or planes to get where we need to go. Look, the higher education âmarketâ will never get as overheated as the stock bubble or the real estate bubble, because thereâs very little opportunity for large-scale speculation and the assets arenât easily transferable. Thereâs no real analog for noise trading, credit default swaps, exotic options, etc. â Iâm not creative enough to engineer a derivative bet that employers will value a Middlebury degree 40% more in 2025, nor is there a good way for me to sell my own bachelorâs to the highest bidder at a market-clearing price. Also, to borrow a point from a nice James Surowiecki essay on this topic (http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2011/11/21/111121ta_talk_surowiecki), there is at least one good, non-bubble reason why the price of education has gone up: it's been very hard to increase productivity relative to other sectors because colleges still need to pay roughly the same number of professors, and they need to pay them in 2011 dollars. This phenomenon of increasing salaries despite flat productivity in a given sector, which also affects health care, is known as Baumol's cost disease. The bubbly aspects of higher education that do exist are fourfold: Long lag-time on expansion of supply: To the extent that universities are expanding capacity in response to rising demand/prices, it takes a while, so capacity may come online just as demand starts to fall. Higher ed has longer lags but much less aggressive investment than the obvious analog â insane quantities of speculative real estate construction from 2003-2007 that became available for sale just as prices started to crash. The non-profit nature of most universities actually helps to temper this one. âEmperorâs new clothesâ mutual belief in asset value: Capable students want degrees because employers value them. Employers value degrees because capable students tend to get them. Even if 4 years of liberal arts education teaches you real job skills about as well as invisible pantaloons cover your ass, thereâs a reinforcing feedback loop based on signaling/credentials. I tend to believe that there is some actual (though overrated) value to higher education, so the analogy here is closer to the real estate market â excepting some outright fraud, skyrocketing prices were linked to actual assets with positive value (unlike the expected cash flows of http://Pets.com). Even so, feedback loops can flip; high-prestige employers start to hire people without degrees, capable 18-year-olds decide itâs worth the risk to skip college, more employers give it a try, and so on. Unnatural market intervention to inflate demand: Thiel and others have harped on the similarity between the governmentâs guarantees/subsidies of student loans and of mortgage loans. Of course, G.W. Bush put a pinprick in this one by making it impossible to escape student loans by declaring bankruptcy, but while this has screwed a lot of people over it doesnât seem to enter into many 18-year-oldâs decisions (hint: a teenager has a pretty high discount rate). I canât actually think of a fourth bullet, but I learned in strategy consulting (another bubble that just wonât pop) that bullets always come in fours, even if it means cutting something important or adding something pointless. So hereâs how the "bubble" might, well, not exactly pop, but gradually deflate like a birthday balloon with a substandard knot: The next Gates or Zuckerberg skips the hassle of dropping out and doesnât bother showing up for freshman year at Harvard. Startups, then more established companies, get the bright idea to recruit straight out of high school, with the added bonus that they pick up star developers before they kill half their brain cells with four years of binge drinking. Most kids still go to college, but pretty soon the Times runs a completely unresearched Sunday Styles piece: âNo official statistics show just how many top students are eschewing education for employment, but the trend is staggering.â [Note: in this version of the future, the NYT paywall was dismantled in June 2011, so people actually read the article.] Itâs still on the margin, but Tiger Mothers of high-school seniors start to drop the J-bomb: âOh, your son is going to Harvard? What a NICE way to spend four years. Timmy just got a JOB at Quora.â The middle and lower classes start to notice that â4-year college educationâ is no more necessary a piece of the American Dream than owning a home. Parents encourage their kids to start working or get practical degrees. In response to demand, innovators create substitutes. 2-year engineering programs start to spring up. Other programs to train first-grade teachers without a standard college degree; you donât have to take calculus or ancient history to graduate but you do have to spend 500 hours in a classroom. Kids who want to write esoteric topology papers go straight into research programs and donât bother fulfilling liberal arts requirements. Etc. etc. Many of these new programs are happening on the campuses of what were formerly lower-tier liberal arts schools. Some are at new institutions. Some are online. 4-year tuition starts to drop. Sallie Mae finally fails, but gets no bailout. Half the predatory student loan companies go under. The 4-year schools that havenât adapted donât make it. Tufts closes its doors, then re-opens under new management as The Medford Institute for Advanced Plumbing Studies. [Note: In the future, human waste is no joke.] It would be gradual, but eventually the practice and culture of higher ed would stagger toward a new equilibrium. And yes, this is a fifth bullet point.
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Speculation on long term assets as a bubble bursts? No one gets that right. Here's my wrong answer. A higher education bubble would effect two populations. Consumers of the asset in question, higher education degrees - students, and producers of the higher education degrees, colleges and universities. In the former case, holders of higher education degrees will be left holding an asset that doesn't carry the wage premium they believed it would hold when they embarked on the endeavor of training for one of these degrees, but would be saddled with the outstanding debt obligations they took on to pay for this asset. This looks a lot like the housing bubble in that it's basically impossible to liquidate the asset that you no longer (or perhaps never) needed, yet you have to make exorbitant payments for it. Unlike the housing crises there will be 0 inventory movement, as you can't really trade yoru degree, and 0 bankruptcy - due to the infinite wisdom of Congress's decisions regarding student loan bankruptcy. People caught in this position will be forced to work in jobs that are potentially ill-suited to their skills, and pay more than they can afford to service their debt obligations. This will result in delaying maybe other decisions in life, including marriage, children, home-ownership. Basically everyone starts to live like graduates of MFA programs. On the supply side, institutions have taken on massive capital expenditure programs in an effort to compete for talent on both student and professorial sides that are beyond the equilibrium point for the system. Once it becomes apparent that higher education degrees aren't realistic financial instruments anymore, universities will have two choices, increase enrollment bases by charging a lower tuition, diluting the value of their professors, or liquidating very specialized capital assets in an already weak real estate market. (Anyone want to buy a slightly used Chemistry building? Anyone?) Again, these capital expenditures are debt fueled obligations leveraged against the school's endowment. In all likelihood the endowments will be drawn against in a highly accelerated fashion, causing universities to rely more on tuitions to cover their obligations, resulting in the need for expanded student bases in now smaller schools, further diluting the product. So both populations are well and good screwed, paying enormous debt payments and realizing less value then before, but like all bubbles, assets are left behind. In one case, over-educated, financially motivated degree holders will have some skills that are general enough to transfer into other fields, allowing the development of new industries - arguably the lack of any "system" choices for these degree holders might also make them more entrepreneurial, since they'll have to carve their own way to realize the value of their specialized degrees in a market that no longer needs them. Debt obligations tend to make people risk-averse though, so that fights against this idea. Universities will be left holding these overbuilt assets that they will sell at a discount. Like the airline industry, new entrants into the education market could entry more cheaply then before buy acquiring the requisite assets to run a university on the cheap, and operate under cheaper, more future focussed models that aligned student and educator incentives better (no idea what that looks like). All this is caveat brand will still exist, and Harvard will continue to survive it's terrible choices in derivative investments and professor acquisition techniques. Or something.
Jesper Sparre Andersen
The Nature of the Investment: As a higher ed consumer you are taking bets on three things: Quality of education (including experiential learning, internship opportunities, and student services related to learning) Quality of reputation (primarily with employers and recruiters) Quality of network Often this bet is taken in terms of time and risk in terms of a loan. Given that its a loan, it provides universities with perhaps too much price flexibility. The Scenarios for the Higher Education Bubble Bursting: One or more of the six following take place: State officials de-fund ineffective investments higher education and shift them to effective (or the media or voters suggest such a scenario) Students and parents in mass vote with their dollars Students and parents in mass ask for their money back (aka a refund) Competitors (online colleges, certifications, community colleges, or free education becomes clearly better and more reputable among recruiters) Loan defaults Massive decrease in availability of college entry level jobs or the pay those jobs receive. I think the most likely scenario is: Online solutions or hybrid solutions become more viable to the traditional degree. For profit student debt goes relatively unregulated and unchecked. I worry that it would take a dramatic hiring freeze or recruiters walking the other way for a shift to take place. On the other hand, I'm not sure how many times higher consumers will put up with 10% price hikes, be they in private or public education. There is a much higher threshold for a higher ed bubble burst than an investment or real estate one: Real estate was driven by bad loans Investments was unsound investment strategy (Basically lying about risk) The clarity of difference in value is far larger in areas like real estate and investments. Also, those two have a unique: Speculation effect Cascading effect The value of a university degree arguably returns after 5 to 7 years of a 40 to 45 year career. Certainly the loans are adjusted so its often 15 to 30 years, but the value of the money in strictly dollar amounts is returned much quicker. Greatest Risk of Bubble from For Profit Universities: If there is a problem, its primarily with for profit universities. For instance, Tom Harkin wrote: For-profit colleges account for only 10 percent of students enrolled in higher education, but those students receive 23 percent of federal student loans and grants, and account for 44 percent of defaults. Wall Street money manager Steven Eisman told the committee that many for-profit colleges are "marketing machines masquerading as universities." I would also suggest looking at this related thread: Source: Tom Harkin article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sen-tom-harkin/for-profit-colleges-and-t_b_644570.html
Nathan Ketsdever
In thinking about the question, consider what could be the sources of downward "price" pressure. I use the grammatically tacky quotes (Will Saphire, may you rest in peace) because there is not a true price on an education once you enrolled for the semester. But here we are trying to think about the wage premium of the typical degree holder? That wage drop would come from either people no longer needing fancy things like doctors, ATMs programmed, new mobile apps created for their new iPads or from lots of those services coming from somewhere else more cheaply. I guess we will not have a great shift that brings the current developed economies from a consumer culture all the way to a puritanical shunning of material culture. That leaves lots of fancy services coming from overseas. So imagine one possible scenario -not a prediction or forecast: 1. To contain health care costs you go to a clinic with a nurse and the doctor (in a Low Wage Country-LWC) examines you remotely. 2. When you want to sue the doctor for mis-diagnosing, you retain a partner at a law firm with almost no associates in this country. Instead they are in LWC, 3. To get home you take a cab that is built in Mexico and drives itself with software coded by coders in LWCs. 4. Your pension is run by portfolio managers overseas in LWCs, and so are your hedge funds. So where is all this skilled labor? It is growing up in emerging countries that have a new middle class. For the first time this new middle class can send their kids to university. And that will lead to hundreds of millions of college degrees. There will certainly will be folks like Trump, Branson and Moore. But even among the very rich there will be more like the first and fewer like the third. Is it all bad? If you know what Quora means, then mostly yes. But if you are among the many poor kids in America in troubled schools who have about a 9% change of graduating college, then this all looks like a tremendous rise in the standard of living. And if you want cheaper healthcare and lawyers (wow, what a mixed blessing) then it is a vision of progress.
Edward Fine
Degrees will likely no longer be a guarantee of employment. There will be at least a generation long backlash against higher education in the US (Hard to tell kids college will get them a good job when it didn't get you one) Massive layoffs at universities A glut of unemployed and under-employed college grads may begin new political movements The federal government will have to create either amnesty program or an outright forgiveness of college loans as the repayment numbers drop severely.. stated no one gets the speculation on long term assets correct.
Jon Mixon
Interesting question - here's my perspective: First, let's define bubble: a bubble occurs when the real value of something is lower than its estimated (market) value - essentially, when real ROI doesn't match expected ROI. This can occur by virtue of the introduction of an abstraction (money), which decouples real value from estimated value. That said, I think the primary influence on the estimated value of a degree is positional - as a criterium in the hiring process. If, indeed, higher education does not improve the quality of a potential employee substantially, companies will drop its priority as a criterium in the hiring process (which is evaluated constantly, for our purposes). When companies drop the importance of a degree (which, by our earlier axiom, maps to student demand), the price of the degree will have to drop to meet it, lest students simply stop paying the imposed price and forego higher education (at least the ones that don't intrinsically value it at whatever the going rate is). What concerns me, however, is that the problem is not 'higher education' full stop - the problem is the direction of higher education today. We would be hard-pressed to over-evaluate the importance of education that truly develops the fundamental skills of analytic reasoning and creative problem solving, as precisely such skills are the primary drivers of real innovation. I'm only concerned that we as a culture are at risk of an overcorrection - wherein 'higher education' as a generalization becomes a dirty concept and isn't given sufficient opportunity to revitalize itself.
Christian Bellofatto
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