How many hours per week would a person in a 100-person commune need to work for the society to function, assuming the work consisted of the bare minimum of self-sufficiency + tax (minimum farming, carpentry, plumbing, tailoring, etc.)?
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Imagine 100 people living in a commune somewhere in Wyoming. They want to structure the commune such that each person is mandated a certain amount of hours of "necessary basic work", denoting work that goes into caring for enough crops to feed everyone (+ a surplus for emergencies and sale), creating and tailoring clothing, carpentry on houses, plumbing, etc. How many of these basic hours would each person have to work in order to be self-sufficient with a reasonable precautionary surplus in case of disaster? What would be the optimal farming structure?
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Too bad you are talking about self-sufficiency work. That is the least efficient work, and it takes the most time to accomplish anything. I guess we're talking farm work and construction and housekeeping work. If I was going to join a commune, I'd want it to be a commune that did intellectual work, so we could charge a lot, and then hire folks to do the hard labor around the commune. If you are farming and doing self-sufficiency work alone, and your fellow commune mates are the typical sort of person who wants to join a commune, I'd expect you to have to work fifty to seventy hours a week just for self sufficiency. More if a significant number of people in the commune slacked off, which is common. That doesn't include any surplus, either. Communes are difficult to run well. They usually operate by consensus, and that decision-making takes an awful long time. This can be short-circuited if you have a charismatic leader who tells everyone what to do. Of course, charismatic leaders usually get to have sex with all the girls, and that tends to cause problems. So if a commune is poorly run and people don't do their fair share, then a lot of work is left undone or sloppily done, and that adds to the work load. Communes tend not to be efficient unless they are religiously focused with a charismatic leader. Then you get a lot of structure, and you do a lot of work, but you get no sex. SO you have a lot of time to engage in arts and crafts. If you select commune members because they love hard work -- if they are following the Buddhist idea of labor as meditation, then I think you might be able to reduce the amount of work people have to do, possibly to around thirty hours a week. But of course the rest of your time would be spent in religious pursuits, so I wouldn't call it free time, necessarily. Unless you were a Buddhist by choice, and wanted to spend all your time meditating. I've known a number of people in various communes and heard stories about a variety of communes. This is my impression and guess about what would happen. I don't have any hard data. But go for it. Let me know how close a guess I made.
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I have no idea what it takes to be part of a commune, but I have some idea of what it takes to provide food for 100 people. It takes a system that starts with highly nutritional annuals and gradually is replaced by perennials. One acre of wheat provides around 1,000 lbs to one ton of food, one acre of Chestnuts provides 4,000 lbs of food, and only gets better with age. The world record Chestnut yield is 1,000 lbs from a single tree. If you can replace your staple annual crops like corn and wheat with perennial Hazelnuts and Chestnuts, you will decrease your workload on the long term by an incredible amount, and should be able to feed many more people. Plus, no one can really grow other crops under wheat, or graze animals through corn, but you can grow your medicinals, other crops, and graze animals under your trees and bushes without too much work at all. It takes quite a lot of work to establish, but once established should take each member just a few hours per week. If you have more intense needs, like you only have 25 acres for these 100 people, it will take more work to keep up on farming. It is possible to produce enough food for a family of four on one acre, but quite a lot of work. It is much less work to produce on one acre per person, and will be more of a gathering/canning type lifestyle where 20 hours per week is food harvest divided between a family of four, and anywhere from 3-10 hours of canning, fermenting, and dehydrating work after food-bearing trees, vines, shrubs, groundcover, mushrooms, and animal systems are established. One could hardly call a stroll through a food forest, eating berries and picking leafy greens, work. The initial work shouldn't be too bad with 100 people at your disposal, but expect to utilize as little annual space as you can manage to feed 100 people so that perennial systems can establish in the rest of your space. Alternatively, you could plant a row of trees every year under swales and annual farm around the trees until they shade out your annual crops and begin bearing. As for making clothes, building houses, etc. I have no idea, except that building houses takes 20% framing, 10% roofing, and the rest is finishing the inside in a "modern construction" home. It costs thousands of man-hours. In cob building - 10% framing, 10% roofing, and 80% playing with mud inside and out. It costs far fewer man hours and much less sophisticated knowledge/tools.
Andrew Mateskon
Look up what is known as a Kibbutz, that should give you and idea of the necessary amount of people for the survival labor. Then figure in about 15% more than that to cover the taxes
James Bachand
Thanks for inviting me to answer. Mateskon practically answered to the fullest. Actually it is not possible to tell about clothes, building houses, etc. Unlike food, they have too much variation today. gave the excellent example of your idea in deployed state - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz. For practical purpose examples of such community based models usually runs today around Spiritual communities - ISKON is a good example. But they actually use a modified version adding import, insourcing etc. practical methodologies are used.
Abhishek Ghosh
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