How are the pay scale and patient load decided for the various kinds of nurses (RN, LVN, LPN, etc.)?
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This is a follow up question to . Also see: Do hospitals have a duty to staff different units with a certain amount of nurses? If so, what is the nursing/patient ratio typical on various 'floors' or medical specialties?
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Pay scale can also depend on market factors such as size pool of applicants, geographical location as well as level of education and type of specialty. Pay scale can also factor if you are working in the private vs. government sector. Government positions will pay less usually. The ratio of patients to nurses seems to have some history to it: med-surg can be 5-7 patients. ICU tends to be around 2 patients per nurses. ER looks about 3 rooms but also staffs for triage and fast track type care. Hospitals are supposed to have a staffing committee that evaluates staff ratios against patient population. There has long been talk of staffing by patient acuity but since this can change by the minute it is hard to nail down with actual staff assignments.
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In my facility, the lowest paid nursing home in the region, starting pay for an LPN is 16/hr. RN is 21/hr. We do 98% identical work. It seems unfair. This is regardless of associates/bachelors, any certifications. Usually, in nursing homes, the patient ratio is quite high, 20-40+ patients per nurse regardless of LPN/RN. I'm not sure how it works in the hospital for LPNs, but a local hospital pays 42.50/hr for RNs (associate degree- if you're a bachelors you get a couple grand extra a year) Keep in mind I am in the suburbs of NYC so the pay is high. I know that in this hospital, the RN gets 5 patients max. I also know that other hospitals sometimes pile on with 9 or 10 patients each. (speaking about a med/surg floor) My mom is an associate degree nurse who works for the Feds... They pay extra for every little certification you pile on, and pay 10-15k more for a bachelors degree. In her position, the LPN has just as many patients as her, but at the end of the day, she's "responsible" for their care and does any and all charting on the patients that the LPN works with. That seems crazy to me, but that's typically how the hierarchy works. Each type of facility is so so different- it makes it really difficult to discuss.
Sarah Reyes
The starting wage at my hospital for new RN's is 30/hr. I think. It could be slightly more but that's the ballpark. We have a clinical ladder that we are encouraged to climb with a 5% pay hike with each step. It's more of a step ladder with three steps. We also get raises that are cost of living as well as ones to keep our hospital competitive with the bay area. Actually, Kaiser, who seems to like to snag up our nurses after we train them. There are no new grads at the Kaiser here. I've been at my institution for 10 years. I started out at 19/hr and am currently around 50something/hr. But I've climbed the damn ladder and hold multiple certs which also adds to the hourly.
Tasha Cooper Poslaniec
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