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Did Jews kill English soldiers before the foundation of Israel?

  • I heard that before the foundation of Israel, Jews killed many British soldiers in Israel-Palestine, raided the British headquarters, and even killed Palestine governor of England. DISCLAIMER FOR QUORA EDITORS: I DON'T USE JEW IN A BAD MEANING, SO IT'S POINTLESS TO CHANGE JEW TO JEWISH PEOPLE.

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    There were three major Jewish underground militias in British Mandatory Palestine, all interested in seeing British rule replaced by Jewish independence.  Depending on circumstances the largest of them, the Hagana, was sometimes even something of an ally for the British.  A smaller militia, the Irgun, did not believe in cooperating with the British.  At one point Menachem Begin, as its leader, declared that no amount of Jewish suffering or Jewish pleas would have any affect on the British administration because the British cared only for their own people.  So when the British threatened to execute some members of the Jewish underground, the Irgun grabbed some British soldiers and said that if the Jewish underground members were executed, the British soldiers would be executed too.  Neither side backed down.  The Jewish militiamen died, and the British soldiers died.  But the British never executed another Jew in Palestine.  While that was one of the most notorious incidents, there were many skirmishes and there were casualties on both sides.  The most violent of the Jewish militias was the smallest one, the Stern Gang, and its impact was larger than its numbers.  The Hagana, the Irgun, and the Stern Gang are all easily researched on the web.

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According to Wikipedia, 338 British soldiers, police officers, and civilians were killed during the Jewish Insurgency between the years of 1939-1948.  I have never heard about any assassination of a British minister here but (again according to Wikipedia) the Stern Gang (Lehi) killed Lord Moyne, the British minister in Cairo, in 1944.

Gil Amminadav

Yup, plenty. Apart from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sergeants_affair that Mark L. Levinson mentions, Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem (British HQ of sorts), killing 91 (mostly Brits).

Derek Larkin

It happened. It was a rebellion, to try to free Israel.

Jake/Shmuel Gould

Yes, there was conflict between Jews and the British before the foundation of Israel, just as there was conflict between Arabs and the British before the foundation of Israel.Close review of Britain's actions throughout the Mandate reveal sources for conflict throughout the period.My interpretation is that from Day one of their Mandate, the British honestly tried to do the absolute fair thing there in the region under their temporary Mandate:  "Try to create a single representative democracy with both Arabs and Jews in a legislature."  They pretty much ignored that ambiguous and loophole ridden "Balfour Provision" in their Mandate, and I think that was a good and fair thing for them to ignore it.However, in their execution, the British simply followed their template over the previous centuries of Imperial Rule:  keep both sides in the region unstable, play both sides off each other in order to maintain control and power over the populations.  This is a game that the  British understood well, and played well.  Despite the non-Imperialist construct of the Mandate itself, Britain certainly considered Palestine a key link in their presence in the Middle East, and certainly were not anxious to "solve" anything there, other than maintain power and control.If one understands the plurality of the Palestinian Arabs, they would understand the divisions within that society:  The rural villagers (2/3rds of population) distrust of the Arab urban elite (the Arab Nationalists), the fierce independence of the Bedouin, and their distrust/disdain for the Nationalists, the Pan-Arabists seeking to join their brethren in surrounding regions, versus nationalist Palestinians that sought a local nation.  Islamists versus secular, Christian Arab versus Muslim Arab, pragmatists versus rejectionists.  There were plenty of Arabs that were on friendly terms with the Jews, heavily intertwined in commerce and land transactions, and the bulk of the Arabs living their rural existence with little contact with Jews, pretty apathetic about the politics of it all.I raise this point because the British would singularly choose and promote a leader for the Palestinian Arabs who, from day one, fit the profile of someone who would not  lead the region to a peaceful solution: Haj Amin al-Husseini.   He would be promoted by the British to the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, an unelected Palestinian leader.  Urban Elite Nationalist, distrusted by the masses?  Check.  Virulent anti-Semitic Islamist prone to incite violence and death against Jews? Check.     Rejectionist for any coexistence with the Jews despite "fact-on-the-ground?" Check.Aggressive leader determined to silence all Arab pragmatists?  CheckThat the British would promote this man is simply a testament to their duplicity throughout the period. There is even evidence that some British authorities would encourage Mufti's incitement against Jews from time to time as an excuse to further restrict Jewish immigration in the aftermath of violence.*****************That Britain's Imperialist game would eventually blow up in their face should not surprise anyone:  both populations WOULD eventually turn against the British to try to force them out of the region.  First the Arabs, and to a far lesser extent afterwards, the Jews.  By the end of Word War 2, exhausted and bankrupt from WW2, and exhausted from nearly a decade of conflict against THEM by BOTH populations, they decided to just up and leave that mess behind.****************A few notes on the Arabs attempt to force the British out  of Palestine during the Arab Revolt 1936-1939.  Good wiki article here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936%E2%80%9339_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine Few understand the scope and brutality of this conflict.  The casualties (killed and wounded) from this conflict were immense (about half of the total casualties in the 1947-1949 Civil and International Wars).  Nearly 40,000 Palestinian Arabs fled Palestine during this conflict.Haj Amin al-Husseini, promoted by the British, was a kingpin in this mess during the Arab Revolt, and, frankly a kingpin throughout the entire Mandate.With his undying intransigence toward any realistic solution beginning in 1920, right up to the UN Partition Plan, both guaranteed a Jewish State, and guaranteed conflict between two groups vying for self-determination.Not related to this answer, but more on that likeable fella here:

David Cardellini

British army sources list 911 deaths in Palestine during 1939-1948. Of these, about 2/3 were from accidents and disease. about 300-350 were killed in the conflict with Jewish insurrection fighting the British for curtailing immigration and closing entrance to refugees from the Holocaust. It's curious that British sites split their records between Jewish and Arab confrontations. Very little data is recorded publicly about the Arab revolt in 1936-1939. During that period 242 Britons died, along with 415 Jews. This is probably due to the harsh methods used by the army to suppress the revolt, using up to 50,000 troops and resulting in around 5,000 Arab deaths and tens of thousands of wounded and deported - around 10% of the adult male Arab population in Palestine. I guess even 'In memoriam' is split according to politically correct lines these days...

Amit Meltzer

Yup. Jews did that. Keep in mind, that Jews only targeted British soldiers in Israel. They NEVER, I repeat, NEVER, targeted british civillians. The reason for that is quite simple. They were a foreign occupier and had no right to control the affairs of our country. Now once you add into this that the British occupiers put an anti-semitic, religious fundamentalist, nazi, war criminal in charge of the Palestinians when originally the palestinians didn't even want war, allowed Palestinians to attack Jews, prevented Jews from defending themselves, refused to allow Jewish refugees to flee to Israel, and freaking killed Jewish refugees fleeing europe, and it's no wonder why the Jews got slightly annoyed with these foreign occupiers. So as all people under the thumb of a foreign occupier do, they started to rebel, and fight back, so british soldiers occupying Israel got killed. But once the British left, it was over. We didn't continue fighting them.

Shai Preter

In short, yes. The Irgun and Stern Gang killed many British soldiers and Police.After the Arab Revolt in 1936-39, Britian was pressured to extremely limit Jews' rights and immigration, something that many Jews saw as a betrayal to the Balfour Declaration. Things got even worse becuase Britian, while letting illegal and legal Arab immigration flow unobstructed into Palestine (even inflating birth rates to make it seem like less of a problem), it was blocking Jews from fleeing the Holocaust. As a response, the Irgun and the Stern Gang (aka the Lehi) were formed and joined the Haganah as underground Jewish organization. However, while the Haganah was more mainstream, accepted by the Yishuv ("community"), and served more as a "protection" force from marauding Arab bands, the Irgun and Stern Gang were made to commit terrorism against British soldiers and police, or against symbols of British rule. The Haganah sometimes worked with them, but also (after British pressure) launched campaigns to destroy the groups twice. The Irgun and Stern gang differed in their tactics, as well: the Irgun liked bombings against troops/infrastructure and coordinated attacks, while the Stern Gang would simply kidnap, kill, or perform corporal punishment on British soldiers/officers walking down the street at night as revenge for British detainment, execution, or corporal punishment of Jews (respectively). Some famous acts of Jewish terrorism against Britian include the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Bridges, and the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing. What's interesting to note is that while these terrorists had very little popular support at first, the acts of terror drove the British soldiers to heavily oppress the Jewish population, often detaining and beating hundreds of men for no reason, looting Jewish shops constantly, and shouting "Hitler was right" and similar slogans—which, of course, led to more recruits for the terrorists. If you're interested in learning more, I would highly recommend the book http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N6PER5A/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1 by Bruce Hoffman. Hoffman is a renowned terrorism scholar, and this is an extremely thoroughly-researched work. It is, however, a rather narrow history, so it would be helpful to have a knowledge of what was generally going on in the British Mandate, but otherwise, it's a great and objective piece of scholarship.

Rita Bogdanova-Shapkina

Yes. Here's the most famous case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

Ilana Halupovich

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