Do you have stories about being abused or burned by church? How has it affected your view of religion?
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Have you held on to your faith in the face of abuse? Has it changed your view of truth, of religion, of God, or people in general? Stories of personal experience, or from family members or close friends that have impacted you are welcome. Please do not use this question to proselytize, or try to stand up for your religion. There are other places for those kinds of discussions. Do not try to fix someone's struggle. This is a question for the stories of struggle, betrayal and maybe a little catharsis and a safe space to tell the tales of religious abuse.
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I was raised in a sparsely populated, all white, farming community in rural Michigan. Everyone went to the same small church. As children we did what we were told by our elders - that is just the way it was. We were taught to trust adults and question nothing. The summer between 8th and 9th grade I landed a job cleaning the church on Friday afternoons. I was 14-years-old. I would ride my bike there in the morning and eventually the pastor or someone with a key would come by and let me in. I cleaned the bathrooms, emptied the trash cans and ran the vacuum in the sanctuary. I made sure the hymnals were straight in the pews and did a little dusting. I made ten dollars a week, I worked hard, and felt rich when I was presented with that ten dollar bill. One August morning I rode my bike to church and there was no one there to let me in. I threw my bike down by the bushes out front and walked around the property as I waited. I plopped myself down on some steps near a door at the side entrance. Shortly there after the pastor's car pulled up and there was someone with him. Assuming he would get out quickly and come let me in - I just sat there. I notice the other person with him was another woman and it was not his wife. She slid close to him and they started kissing passionately in the front seat of the car. I recognized her as the wife a neighbor. They were also parishioners at the church. I was dumbfounded. Being a stupid kid and not knowing what to do, I got up and started walking toward his car. The pastor spotted me and quickly jumped out. He grabbed me by the sleeve of my t-shirt and took me back to the steps where he sat me down sharply. He sternly instructed me that I was NEVER to breath a word of what I saw. I was to tell no one. I was told that what I saw was not for the eyes of children and God would be very unhappy with me if he knew I that I was interfering in the lives of adults. He went on to say, "You don't want me to call you mother and let her know you are not doing a good job here, do you?" "We would like to keep you on." I remember being in tears and apologizing - for what, I don't remember - and I promised him I would do a good job and assured him I wanted to stay on. I asked him to please not call my mother. I assured him I would not interfere with adult business ever again. He patted me on the shoulder, unlocked the side door and I went in and cleaned the church. School started two weeks later and I lost my cleaning job. My church attendance became very sporadic after that. When I did go I received extra attention from the pastor after the service. He usually questioned me about how things were going. He then closed his comments with thanking me for honoring God. I knew what the man was referring to, even as a child. I do not trust clergy. I have not been to church other than to attend weddings and funerals in years. I am not an atheist. Though, I have no use for organized religion. Other than sharing this story with a few very close friends as an adult - I have never told a soul that I witness our pastor kissing the wife of another man; until now. I hope he is still alive. I hope he reads this. I hope he honors God and asks God to forgive him for coveting another man's wife and abusing a child.
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I wrote in great length about this here: For those who would rather not read through it I'll summarize. I was basically made to feel unwelcome after my first meeting as the new Youth Leader. I was never spoken to by those who engineered my ousting. To this day I have a deep and abiding mistrust for organized Christianity. I'd like to think that my relationship with my Lord and Savior hasn't been affected but it has. I don't pray as often as I should. I don't spend as much time actively considering what God's path is for me. I love God. I don't care much for his followers though.
Ian Morgan
I have been luckily spared from these types of conflicts, generally. I would suggest this is about five related issues: Lack of humility Power/ego (temptation) Lack of conflict resolution skills (inability to see or identify common ground). Not focusing enough on community and unity, etc... Too much either/or thinking Lack of empathy/lack of compassion. Misguided desire to "accomplish" some end while not understanding how it would effect stakeholders in a negative way (aka means, process, spiritual collateral damage).
Nathan Ketsdever
There is always a danger with unaccountable power. I don't blame the church for this it is just about human failings. Churches are casually abusive, although it is the extreme end that gets noticed. I've lost some friends to religion, who do nothing more than define someone's social circle. If you aren't prepared to join the club you are an outsider and viewed as a threat. For abuse it used to be a lot more common than is admitted. My cousin was stalked by a priest, who took an unhealthy interest in her "moral well-being" by following her about from place to place. Literally everywhere she went he would be nearby and make his presence known. Corruption wasn't unknown, my niece was refused Baptism on the grounds of her parent's atheism, until a donation to the Church was made. People don't generally speak about what happened in church, but that amount of unaccountable power is bound to lead to abuse. I didn't suffer any abuse personally, but the whispers abounded. You aren't as a kid ever going to testify against a priest and no one is going to believe you.
Joe Geronimo Martinez
I have remarked on other questions about this. Excommunicated after three, three hour trials from being a Mormon priest. It became a farce. I had long before lost the woo, woo part but was still doing the family thing. The doctrine, especially the exclusiveness bothered me from the first time my mother introduced it when I was 11. I never bought the story as fact. But the family process is pretty second to none. Joy is prevalent in most of the families.
Mike Leary
Being precocious I asked the Sunday school teacher who had just shown a room of children (all under the age of 10) a rather traumatic movie (made in the early 80's) about the apocalypse, in order to create an environment conducive to inspiring children to accept Jesus Christ into their hearts, "What about babies who die? They can't even understand talking and they don't know Jesus. Do they go to hell?" The teacher's response was, "Yes, but its a less hot section of hell." I called bullshit (literally, cursed at the Sunday school teacher) and that I am not a fan of organized religion.
Anonymous
There are people quietly doing good things in quiet corners of the world. So many of them that we'll never know of. Unless they come one day to prominence. Like Mother Theresa or Pope Francis. Meantime, it heartens me to know that there are unseen good people doing good. There are also unseen evil people doing evil in quiet places, and they'll remain unknown unless they someday come to prominence. By which time, their evil would have been able to harm a lot more people. Time and the size of the organisation are leverage for good or evil. Political manoeuvring. Slander. Character assassination. Control over relationships. Financial manipulation. Just some things I've experienced. The Bible, which many of these transgressors put on a pedestal (failing to see themselves accurately in it), is full of shady, evil, fallen, comic people. I'm talking about the fathers of the faith, not a pointy eared caricature of the devil. Some of these ended ignominiously. Some of these ended redemptively. In other words, just like in real life.
Alpha Lim
I'm a Catholic Freemason. I haven't been abused or burned by any church, but some of the more ... "enthusiastic" and terminally undereducated or mentally challenged members have had issues with that. Hasn't changed my faith, hasn't changed my view of the Church, God, or people in general. I'm still a Catholic. I'm still a Freemason. ...and I'm still a Knight Templar, too.
Shawn Bell
Mission churches that chew up and spit out vicars like gum. Not known from personal experience...just know that each (arch)diocese/synod/conference has a couple of troubled congregations that can lay some heavy spiritual abuse on their (often temporary) clergy.
Phil Hobrla
I have had some bad experiences in churches. Especially when I was practicing poverty on purpose. Even though I helped the church in a lot of ways, one particular one just didn't like me. It could be that I asked them to raise the bar in service to others and felt there were financial irregularities. I had a security guard, peep at me in the bathroom. I was yelled at for eating food at one of the banquets, even though my manners are quite good. So even though I was just playing a role, I was labeled by some. We were asked to contribute ideas for the church and it was just another mess. They didn't want to hear anything to their loss got in trouble for praying in an empty church. I was told that I was scaring people. In general I figure if you wanted to get anything done in a church you have to be the right wallet size. I wonder how many other people have been treated similarly. It hurts because there was no way to vent. And because I felt that I should have been supported by friends and family in my Mr. Smith Goes to Washington moment.
Ingrid A. Hansen
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