Studying abroad for Medicine?

I'm studying medicine but not fitting in. Where do I find advice?

  • I am a 2nd year undergraduate Medical Student in New Zealand but am finding it boring. I like dealing with patients but have bigger aspirations that clinical medicine. A lot of my frustrations seem to tie back to my ENTJ personality type, which I believe is poorly suited to Medicine in general. My only interests within Medicine are fairly typical ENTJ fodder, Health Policy and Healthcare Management. I think I basically made a poor career decision at 17. My question is whether or not to change degrees. I have an unusual but potential medical career path (as mentioned above) and don't have a firm idea of what I would do outside of medicine. Politics, Sci/Tech businesses and design all really interest me but I can't seem to pin it down to a specific degree/major. Not knowing exactly what to change to, and not hating Medicine enough to drop out has been a recipe for indecision. My fear is that I will do nothing and still have an unresolved career-crisis at 30. For about a year now I have asked for advice (friends, family, university career counsellors) but no one really seems to understand my situation. Is there anywhere I can go for advice on what I should do?

  • Answer:

    In The Netherlands at the http://www.utwente.nl/en/ which used to be a polytechnics university the department of Technical Business Administration has a sub-stream Business Administration in Health Care, grooming people to become higher up administrators, even Directors/CEO's in hospitals, blood transfusion services, health insurance companies etc.

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I am not an expert but here are somethings to consider. 1. If you really don't like it then you should quit. Life is too short to make the wrong choices and get stuck. 2. Doctors really need to be professional and committed. I had friends who went to med school just to make their parents happy. In the end, no one was happy.... 3. When entering a new field, it's normal to not be able to pin down your exact goal or interest. If you know what you want then you are either a genius or you really don't know what you are doing. Usually, it's the latter... 4. If you are interested in other areas, I suggest that you take six months or may be a year off and really explore the areas. You are young and you have time to explore. 5. If you are risk averse, I suggest that you try some courses on coursera, edX about politics, economics, and business and see if you like these areas. Overall, it's good that you question your life choices and look for other alternatives. A lot of times, people either don't question or just give up on looking, such inactivity leads to massive unhappiness as one gets older and one can't handle it anymore. I suggest that you take it easy and really try to find out what you enjoy and what you would like to do :D Cheers~

Anonymous

You would be surprised at how many scientists, doctors, and different types of health care professionals there are on Twitter.  To find some of them, you can try searching, but you might get information faster if you go to Tweetchat and sign on during one of the many healthcare-related chats.  I'm not employed in any of these areas, but get lots of valuable information from these chats and the people I meet in them and follow thereafter.

Alison Meyer

I'm not familiar with the school system in New Zealand and I can't tell quite how much time you've put specifically into the career track of medicine. Here in the US if you're an undergraduate it means you're still fairly young and haven't done too much specialized study, but I'm not sure if the meaning is the same in NZ. If you haven't put several years towards medical study, I think you might really benefit from exploring your interests in business. This is an area that really works well for most ENTJs and you would probably easily find a niche. If you can easily take some business classes, this seems like a great idea. On the other hand, if you have invested several years and/or a significant amount of money into medical study, I'd say stick with it and have a leadership role as your end goal. I don't think wanting to focus on the policy or business end of health care is particularly unusual, as you say. Every medical practice, hospital, etc., needs to have leaders, and doctors who are more interested in the business end of things can usually move up fairly quickly into these positions. One thing I think you haven't considered is that being a doctor in itself confers a certain degree of respect, prestige, and power. Most people look up to doctors and listen to what they say. This is something that really appeals to ENTJs—influence tends to be very important to them. If you go with another career track, you won't get the sort of automatic prestige that you will as an MD. You might well end up in a position of influence, say, in business, but it will all depend on your achievements.

Molly Owens

Normally I'd recommend the very people you seem to have visited already.  I also don't know exactly how the New Zealand System works, so that's difficult to say.  If you're truly finding medicine boring and are more interested in Health Policy, I would say it makes sense to pursue it, especially this early on.  I think your fears of having an unresolved career crisis are founded.  There are degrees (MPH, or whatever the equivalent is for you) that are geared more towards that and might make you happier.  Of course you would still run the risk of dissatisfaction, but nothing is without risk right?

Sumeet Jain

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