Is the measured unstoppable ice melt in Antarctica going to have an impact on policy decisions?
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The measurement data indicates that the melting is occurring much faster than was previously predicted. It has for all intents and purposes passed the point of no return according to extensive measured data from NASA. http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/may/nasa-uci-study-indicates-loss-of-west-antarctic-glaciers-appears-unstoppable/#.U3bVTye9KK0 A new study by researchers at NASA and the University of California, Irvine, finds a rapidly melting section of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet appears to be in an irreversible state of decline, with nothing to stop the glaciers in this area from melting into the sea. The study presents multiple lines of evidence, incorporating 40 years of observations that indicate the glaciers in the Amundsen Sea sector of West Antarctica "have passed the point of no return," according to glaciologist and lead author Eric Rignot, of UC Irvine and NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California. The new study has been accepted for publication in the journal Geophysical Research Letters. These glaciers already contribute significantly to sea level rise, releasing almost as much ice into the ocean annually as the entire Greenland Ice Sheet. They contain enough ice to raise global sea level by 4 feet (1.2 meters) and are melting faster than most scientists had expected. Rignot said these findings will require an upward revision to current predictions of sea level rise. "This sector will be a major contributor to sea level rise in the decades and centuries to come," Rignot said. "A conservative estimate is it could take several centuries for all of the ice to flow into the sea." Three major lines of evidence point to the glaciers' eventual demise: the changes in their flow speeds, how much of each glacier floats on seawater, and the slope of the terrain they are flowing over and its depth below sea level. In a paper in April, Rignotâs research group discussed the steadily increasing flow speeds of these glaciers over the past 40 years. This new study examines the other two lines of evidence. The glaciers flow out from land to the ocean, with their leading edges afloat on the seawater. The point on a glacier where it first loses contact with land is called the grounding line. Nearly all glacier melt occurs on the underside of the glacier beyond the grounding line, on the section floating on seawater. Just as a grounded boat can float again on shallow water if it is made lighter, a glacier can float over an area where it used to be grounded if it becomes lighter, which it does by melting or by the thinning effects of the glacier stretching out. The Antarctic glaciers studied by Rignot's group have thinned so much they are now floating above places where they used to sit solidly on land, which means their grounding lines are retreating inland. "The grounding line is buried under a thousand or more meters of ice, so it is incredibly challenging for a human observer on the ice sheet surface to figure out exactly where the transition is," Rignot said. âThis analysis is best done using satellite techniques." The team used radar observations captured between 1992 and 2011 by the European Earth Remote Sensing (ERS-1 and -2) satellites to map the grounding lines' retreat inland. The satellites use a technique called radar interferometry, which enables scientists to measure very precisely -- within less than a quarter of an inch -- how much Earth's surface is moving. Glaciers move horizontally as they flow downstream, but their floating portions also rise and fall vertically with changes in the tides. Rignot and his team mapped how far inland these vertical motions extend to locate the grounding lines. The accelerating flow speeds and retreating grounding lines reinforce each other. As glaciers flow faster, they stretch out and thin, which reduces their weight and lifts them farther off the bedrock. As the grounding line retreats and more of the glacier becomes waterborne, there's less resistance underneath, so the flow accelerates. Slowing or stopping these changes requires pinning points -- bumps or hills rising from the glacier bed that snag the ice from underneath. To locate these points, researchers produced a more accurate map of bed elevation that combines ice velocity data from ERS-1 and -2 and ice thickness data from NASA's Operation IceBridge mission and other airborne campaigns. The results confirm no pinning points are present upstream of the present grounding lines in five of the six glaciers. Only Haynes Glacier has major bedrock obstructions upstream, but it drains a small sector and is retreating as rapidly as the other glaciers. The bedrock topography is another key to the fate of the ice in this basin. All the glacier beds slope deeper below sea level as they extend farther inland. As the glaciers retreat, they cannot escape the reach of the ocean, and the warm water will keep melting them even more rapidly. The accelerating flow rates, lack of pinning points and sloping bedrock all point to one conclusion, Rignot said. "The collapse of this sector of West Antarctica appears to be unstoppable," he said. "The fact that the retreat is happening simultaneously over a large sector suggests it was triggered by a common cause, such as an increase in the amount of ocean heat beneath the floating sections of the glaciers. At this point, the end of this sector appears to be inevitable." Because of the importance of this part of West Antarctica, NASA's Operation IceBridge will continue to monitor its evolution closely during this year's Antarctica deployment, which begins in October. IceBridge uses a specialized fleet of research aircraft and the most sophisticated suite of science instruments ever assembled to characterize changes in thickness of glaciers, ice sheets and sea ice. For additional images and video related to this new finding, visit: http://go.nasa.gov/1m6YZSf For additional information on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and its potential contribution to sea level rise, visit: http://go.nasa.gov/1oIfSlO For more information on Operation IceBridge, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/icebridge The California Institute of Technology in Pasadena manages JPL for NASA. NASA monitors Earth's vital signs from land, air and space with a fleet of satellites and ambitious airborne and ground-based observation campaigns. NASA develops new ways to observe and study Earth's interconnected natural systems with long-term data records and computer analysis tools to better see how our planet is changing. The agency shares this unique knowledge with the global community and works with institutions in the United States and around the world that contribute to understanding and protecting our home planet. The glacier is 2 million sq kilometers, massive. http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/antarctica/west-antarctic-ice-sheet/ Will these measured hard facts impact the AGW debate in the USA and globally? Or do people just think all this data is fabricated by lying shameful scientists? Can one have a meaningful debate without facts ?
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Negligible impact. Positions are dug in and more "facts" will do nothing to budge them. If anything, some will read "faster than predicted" and question the models that produced the erroneous predictions.
Rob Weir at Quora Visit the source
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I would love to answer this with a great big "yes", but I can't, at least not for the next few years. Certainly as long as the Republicans are terrified of their climate-change denying rightand in a position to effect policy, they will do what they can to stop any possible legislation. But beyond that, even many Democratic politicians seem to not get how serious this is.
Carol R Strand
Here are couple of the facts: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/09/23/antarctic-sea-ice-hit-35-year-record-high-saturday/ http://phys.org/news/2014-06-major-west-antarctic-glacier-geothermal.html International treaties on stopping volcanic activities would not help.
Arcady Grenader
Nothing will happen in the US. People are too entrenched in their positions now. To my absolute amazement the Republican legislature in North Carolina has actually tried to legislate the weather by making it illegal for contractors, architects and insurance companies to factor in climate change when making plans for building around the coast. They may fool the people who buy the high rise condos they build on the beach but they are certainly not fooling mother nature who is going to take those high rise condos right down. In the long run you will see the end of flood insurance, and I predict the total abandonment, at least officially, of New Orleans and parts of Florida. Even Manhattan will be threatened and it might be the end of much of Cape Cod. 80 percent of the US population lives within 50 miles of a coastline, but you will them pulling back as they abandon the coastlines in the wake of 100 year storms that occur every year. The loss of wealth from the destruction of real estate values will be enormous and will dramatically effect the economy which will already be struggling with major cracks Social Security and other parts of the budget.
Jay Bazzinotti
If measured temperature increase (350 consecutive months if above average temperatures) does not persuade people that it is getting warmer then I doubt this, quite subtle, thing will have any effect either. Denial, in ordinary English usage, is asserting that a statement or allegation is not true.[1] The same word, and also abnegation, is used for a psychological defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.[2][3]
Rupert Baines
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