Is conservation of energy a concept developed out of experiments or can it be derived out of any theoretical model (like Newtonian mechanics or general relativity)?
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Do physicists take "The Law of Conservation of energy" as an axiom because it agrees with the experiments or has any modern theoretical model like general relativity, quantum mechanics been able to prove it theoretically.
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Answer:
A2A Conservation of energy comes from Noether's theorem in systems which can be described by a Lagrangian or a Hamiltonian which does not have an explicit dependence on time. According to Noether's Theorem, there is a conserved quantity for every differentiable symmetry of the action. Energy is the conserved quantity corresponding to time-translation symmetry. Systems with friction cannot be described by a Lagrangian or Hamiltonian, so there is no conservation of mechanical energy. In quantum mechanics, if the Hamiltonian does not depend explicitly on time, its expectation value (basically the "average" value of energy) does not change with time. In general relativity, local conservation of energy-momentum is built into the Einstein field equations.
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All physical laws, including the principle of conservation of energy, are ultimately derived from observation . One can't conclude anything about the empirical world purely from reason or mathematics. You always need a set of empirical facts. Noether's theorem shows that time translation symmetry gives rise to conservation of energy. Whenever a system is invariant under time translation, its energy remains constant over time. It is a mathematical theorem linking two apparently separate ideas. If the former is true then the latter must be true. But it can't say whether any of them is true or not in our world. You need to observe the world to know that. In general relativity for example, the global conservation of energy is a problematic concept.
Soubhik Bhattacharya
Conservation of energy is a concept developed out of experiments. The whole branch is called thermodynamics. There has been no violation, observed, as long as you remember the inter-convertibility between mass and energy. Thanks for the A2A.
Olive Sen
A physical theory, and also the postulates on which it is based can only be validated, that means that every experiment done shows that the theory holds and in this case energy conservation holds. A physical theory can be proven only to be false even by one datum, and then the theory changes. Though Noether's Theorem can give you a rigorous mathematical proof. But it's assumptions applying on the observations I make irritate me a bit. So I would be happy to accept it as an axiom rather than a derived law.
Abhishek Grewal
It is a concept developed out of experiments and observations and can be derived theoretically also, like the Work-Energy theorem.
Anirudh Ray
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