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  • I have a needy friend that I have been helping out, but I need to draw a line somehow. Complication: we work together. I can’t let my friend and her son literally starve, but I really am pretty broke. I don’t know how to word things / deal with the situation to tell her I can’t give any more, when she inevitably requests more help. Apologies for the huge textwall below. I have a friend, Sara, who is also a coworker. Sara is one of my best friends, and I don’t have many. Anyway, lately her financial situation has been even worse than usual, and today I gave her a bag of groceries so she and her son wouldn’t starve, and $10 for gas that she said she would pay me back once we get paid (on the 30th). This is the second time I have given her a bag of food, the first time was maybe 5 months ago. I feel really sorry for her, and I could spare the cash for a little bit, and the food is mainly stuff I wouldn’t get around to eating, but I’m really afraid she’s going to ask for even more soon. Possibly a lot more. I don’t have a lot to give (I make slightly less than she does and I have been trying to clamp down on my recent bad habit of running up my credit cards. I am not living within my means and I need to tighten my budget, something I am working on and struggling with. I’m not gonna have extra food to give beyond maybe one more bag of groceries. I am having to drastically reduce my food budget to make ends meet. I cannot afford to feed three people.) And I’m worried. I don’t know how to draw the line. I will feel like a supreme asshole for even drawing a line, and I keep going over and over again in my head how I could word a possible response. And I am afraid any response at all other than giving til I bleed is gonna cause her to be really damned unpleasant to me at work, or at least freeze me out and make things super-awkward. Possibly relevant details: We work in the same room with four other people, and she’s the chief gossip. There might be a desk shift-around in the future, maybe 4-6 months away, but I’m not sure. I dread being in the same room with her for 40 hours a week if she is pissed off at me. She is a single mother with zero support from the father. She has one 14 yer old son, and two other sons who are older, but one is kind of a deadbeat (says he will pay her then goes and buys himself a laptop and gives her nothing), and the other is in jail. She lives in my apartment complex. She called me today to beg for food because she had none, and she was desperate for something to feed her son. Her son was over at her sister’s place earlier in the day, and her sister would not even give her son any food to eat, not even a ramen. She told me she is used to “fasting” and has lost like 25 pounds recently :(. This breaks my heart. I give her food for lunch at work sometimes too. Argh! I can’t fix her financial situation, and I absolutely feel like it’s not my place to offer unsolicited advice. But I am uncomfortable with this and fear being dragged down into the quicksand with her, because I feel pity for her and she is my friend and I would be a supremely Bad Friend if I let her go hungry. But honestly this feels like a really one-sided friendship. I don’t think I have ever asked her for anything that I can think of, beyond just normal work-related stuff that any coworker should do for another reciprocally. I mean she’s nice to me and supportive when we chat about things, etc. My other friend thinks I am totally being taken advantage of and need to cut her off completely. But he doesn’t even know about this food request today. Also not sure if this is relevant to the question, but she is very religious and I don’t know what sort of resources she might have at her church. She said she recently left her old church and has just joined a new one, so I don’t know if she has the kind of support network there that can really help her. I haven’t asked about it. I don’t know if she is on food stamps or not, but I’m 99% sure she already is or does not qualify. So I am asking the hive mind: how do I draw the line and deal with my growing suspicion of being taken advantage of? I mean, I feel like I am a generous person when I have stuff to share, but it kind of feels like she’s this endless pit of need and yet I view with dread any time she asks me for more. I mean, in January I said “sure you can come over and use my computer and internet”, and this turned into like 15 weeks of 3-6 hours on one weeknight a week doing her schoolwork. Way more than I was comfortable with (I cannot relax when I have people over, and it went well past my bedtime more than once). When she originally asked it sounded like she needed to come over only once. But I couldn’t exactly bail on that because she absolutely needed it for her class. How can I say no when she can’t afford gas money to go to the school’s computer lab? I need to set a boundary, but how would you do this? I feel like it’s gotta be a delicate dance of not pissing her off, yet not letting her (and her poor son) literally starve, yet not going even broke-er myself. I feel like I’ve set the expectation with her that I will do anything for her forever, but this is really unrealistic obviously. I just feel really pinned in an uncomfortable situation. TL;DR: Needy friend, including food insecurity. I’ve given a lot already, and need to draw a boundary. Help?

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    You work in the same room as 4 other people, but it sounds like she's not making these demands on them, and she's not furious with them either. Can you observe how they draw the line, and emulate it? I suspect what happened is that she did a little test first for all of you (including the other 4). The others simply said no, but you said yes. Then she asked for a bigger request, and a bigger one. If you change your position now, she probably will try all sorts of behaviors to get you to relent, including gossiping about you, freezing you out, etc. She knows that you're the type of person who *could* say yes, so she's going to try many techniques. She knows the others are the type of people who say no, so she's already given up trying things with them. You need to convince her that you've switched from the type of person who says yes, to the type of person who says no. To do this, vary your demeanor, tone of voice, and body language as much as possible. If you normally say in a soft tone "i don't know, i guess, maybe" while leaning on one foot and wringing your hands, try standing up very straight on both feet solidly and saying loudly, "That last bag of food was all I can do for a few months. Good luck."

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I think maybe it's time to stop seeing her comments about her situation as requests for help (even if that's what they are), and to start treating them as opportunities to commiserate about how poor you both are. It sounds as though you are actually in a pretty bad financial place too, but maybe she doesn't realise it. So next time your conversation could go more like this: Her "Oh my god, I have no food in the house, and my son is going hungry. I don't know what to do!" You "I know! It's still a week until payday, and I'm getting calls from my credit card company about my debt. I don't know how I'm ever going to pay it off. And I've been eating beans and rice solidly for days now." Her "At least you have some food in the house..." You "For now, but I'm worried it isn't going to last until payday. I've been looking into food banks to see if they can help tide me over. Do you want the addresses of the ones I managed to find? Maybe we could go together?"

lollusc

If she is coming to you for help, I think you need to politely, supportively tell her advice is all you can offer, since she needs far more help than you can give her (and that's what you need to gently point out to her). "Puppetron, I'm starving and I need another bag of groceries..." "Friend, I am so sorry, that must be really stressful. Unfortunately you need more help than I can give you. I care about you and your son(s), so after I got you that last bag of groceries on Tuesday I looked into some options for you. I know you may have already tried some of these, but I hope there's something here that can help. I really hope it gets better." And then you hand her some printouts. And if she pushes back: "Oh, thanks, but what I really need right now is just this one bag of groceries for my son's dinner tonight..." then you say sympathetically, "I understand. But I'm just not in a position to help you myself anymore which is why I found you these alternatives. I'm so sorry, it's a bad spot to be in and I hope these will help." And then later, if need be, "Friend, I really am sorry but I've helped as much as I'm able already." Some of those options, perhaps (and you don't even have to suggest all of these to her, but I'm listing them not just for her but for you so you can see you aren't the only possible source of help):> Has she taken the father to court for child support? > Could you compile a list of food bank resources and do mention food stamps just in case she isn't on them as well? My town has a food bank, but we also have a thrift store that gives away food to the hungry as well and church-provided meals for the poor and also just general church come-for-Wednesday-lunch-and-prayer meals. > Has she looked into the assistance programs that come hand-in-hand with SNAP (food stamps) like subsidized cell phone service so she can save money she can then spend on food and/or gas? > Perhaps she needs to consider a move into a shelter or governmental housing assistance program or a relative's home? > Re: computer/internet, the past two universities I've worked at both checked out laptops for free, like books. Then she'd just need to find a place with free wifi like a cafe or something. Public libraries also let people use computers/internet for periods of time.

vegartanipla

Refer her to a food bank.

shoesietart

Yeah, seconding shoesietart. Let her know that you can't do it anymore "but these people are set up to do it..." as you hand her a sheet that lists all of the local places that she can go to get help with food/meals.

blueberry

any response at all other than giving til I bleed is gonna cause her to be really damned unpleasant to me at work, or at least freeze me out and make things super-awkward. I dread being in the same room with her for 40 hours a week if she is pissed off at me. She has you running scared, trying desperately to help her even though you're not well off yourself. This is not friendship. Sara is a manipulator and a mooch.

zadcat

This is so hard - I got taken advantage of like this when I was in high school, by a "friend" who was pregnant and needed money for doctor's appointments. I gave her my lunch money and went hungry for nearly a year before a teacher figured out what was going on. Here's the thing, sock puppetron: there are resources for people who need help. Your coworker does not need to come to you, and you do not need to support additional people who are not your family. You are a good person, even if you say no to this. In fact, I would say you are a good person especially if you say no to this, because you are absolutely not in a financial position to help. You need to take care of yourself first - put on your own oxygen mask before helping others, as it were. You will need to prepare yourself to get out of this helping situation. Step one is to make a list of available resources for your coworker - a list of food banks, a list of church pantries, a phone number to apply for food stamps or other benefits in your area, a list of before/after school programs that provide meals to kids. Add to the list places to use a computer for free - public library, local college/university (if she's taking classes, does she not have access to those facilities? Don't they have computer labs or a library that's open late? They would also have programs for students in need, or in a worst case scenario, she could take out loans for living expenses). Then you have two options. You can have that list with you, in your purse or backpack or desk drawer, so that next time she asks you can give it to her. Or you can approach her first and say, "I am not able to help you with groceries anymore, but here is a list of resources I found for you. These places exist to help people in your situation, and I cannot afford to do so anymore." Approaching her will be harder, but it might mean there is only one conversation to be had - she will realize that you are serious and are not going to enable her anymore. Waiting for her to ask, she may try to argue or rebut your resources. But it's really hard to initiate this step. (Also, frankly, I don't believe that her sister wouldn't feed her son. If they are close enough to spend time together or for the sister to be taking care of him, I seriously doubt the sister would withhold food from the boy. More likely, the boy didn't want what was being served, or your coworker thought it made a good story - but I'm not buying it. She is trying to convince you that her family is literally on the verge of starvation, but I PROMISE YOU, if you stop helping, they will not die of starvation.)

peanut_mcgillicuty

If she can't take a reasonable boundary like, "I can't keep giving you more money and time", then she's not a friend, she's a bank customer upset that the ATM won't work. Tell her you can't anymore as it's become too much. Be simple and direct. Understand that most of what you're feeling RE: feeling like an asshole is likely coming from you, not her (and if it is coming from her...that's rude). You've already gone above and beyond. Put on your own oxygen mask.

inturnaround

Also this may be too obvious but her son is getting the free and reduced price school breakfasts and lunches, right? (There's generally a summer food program as well.)

vegartanipla

This woman is NOT a friend: she's a leech. I'll bet her sister turned her son down for dinner for exactly the same reason you're here now, because Sister got tired of being drained by Sara. Your computer: tell her flat-out "I'm sorry, that won't be possible" next time she wants to use it --- don't discuss WHY it won't be possible, don't offer any explanations or reasons, don't say anything that leaves open a later time (don't say "it's not possible RIGHT NOW), just No, it's not possible, period. If she calls, tell her no. If she simply shows up at your door DO NOT LET HER IN. Send her to the library instead: every library I know of has computers available to use for free. Food: make up a list of food banks you can have ready to hand her next time she comes to you. If she simply sends her son over expecting you to feed him, don't let him in, just hand him a package of ramen and send him home. Again, do NOT give her reasons or explanations; just keep repeating "I'm sorry, but that won't be possible", over and over and over to her. So WHAT if she thinks you're rude: she is NOT your friend, she only wants to use you until there's nothing left, at which point she'll drop you like a rock. Gossip at work: don't worry about it, I'll bet your other coworkers already know she's a gossip, and discount everything she says as garbage. Her church: every church out there either HAS resources to help her, or can tell her where to get it. And I know this is cynical of me, but I've seen people switch churches because they've drained Church A of all they can get, and now they've moved on to do the same to Church B, and eventually Church C.

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